sorry ts nonito smashes rigondeaux so stop dreaming
No one knows who rigondeaux is!!!!!
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ease up thereyou do realise who rigondeaux is don't you?
you think winning gold medals in two consecutive olympic games, and everything else he's won along the way, is not much? you do realise he's a world champion in his 9th pro bout and basically scared his opponent into not throwing a shot in the process right?
jesus.
first off he is now a professional fighter and while his amateur career was stellar this is a whole new ballgame
secondly while yes he is a titleist (not a champ mind you) he beat a guy essentially a lot of people wondered aloud how he got the title in the first place (*cough* Al Haymon *cough*). Not only that but he was woefully behind when he essentially one punched Shimoda so it's not like Rigo beat some bad ass world beating champion
yes Rigo has tremendous skill and trouble for a lot of people but some of y'all act like he is the 2nd coming or did we forget just two fights ago he fought like utter crap?Comment
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You and I, both, have been critical of Guillermo's performance against Cordoba, Eaner. I have a feeling you'll agree with me when I say that Rigo's last victory was heavily aided by an opponent who was scared to fight. Now that that's out of the way, did Rigo show you anything against Ramos? You say he has tremendous skill; has your assessment of "El Chacal" grown significantly?ease up there
first off he is now a professional fighter and while his amateur career was stellar this is a whole new ballgame
secondly while yes he is a titleist (not a champ mind you) he beat a guy essentially a lot of people wondered aloud how he got the title in the first place (*cough* Al Haymon *cough*). Not only that but he was woefully behind when he essentially one punched Shimoda so it's not like Rigo beat some bad ass world beating champion
yes Rigo has tremendous skill and trouble for a lot of people but some of y'all act like he is the 2nd coming or did we forget just two fights ago he fought like utter crap?Comment
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i question rigo's heart more than his skills. the reason he struggled against cordoba was he panicked when he got hurt and cordoba stood up to him eventhough he's inferior as a fighter. rigo will always be spectacular against outmatched opponents but i think he will panick again if he fights somebody who can match his skills especially gutsy fighters.You and I, both, have been critical of Guillermo's performance against Cordoba, Eaner. I have a feeling you'll agree with me when I say that Rigo's last victory was heavily aided by an opponent who was scared to fight. Now that that's out of the way, did Rigo show you anything against Ramos? You say he has tremendous skill; has your assessment of "El Chacal" grown significantly?Comment
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well I have always thought he had good skillsYou and I, both, have been critical of Guillermo's performance against Cordoba, Eaner. I have a feeling you'll agree with me when I say that Rigo's last victory was heavily aided by an opponent who was scared to fight. Now that that's out of the way, did Rigo show you anything against Ramos? You say he has tremendous skill; has your assessment of "El Chacal" grown significantly?
my issue, and I hope this doesn't come off bad, is that for the most part the Cuban pros that come through the ranks are technical proficient but seemingly content to be just that. There doesn't seem to be any "soul" to the fighting style and while it's great to see aesthetically it's not as entertaining as one would hope
Rigo falls into that IMO. He has all the tools to be something special but seems content to know he is more skilled than you. He had Ramos deathly afraid of him yet it tool rounds to finally finish him off. That to me is a flaw that other skilled fighters will eventually exploit
Gamboa seems to be the loan exception IMOComment
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You bring up a very keen observation now that you mentioned it.well I have always thought he had good skills
my issue, and I hope this doesn't come off bad, is that for the most part the Cuban pros that come through the ranks are technical proficient but seemingly content to be just that. There doesn't seem to be any "soul" to the fighting style and while it's great to see aesthetically it's not as entertaining as one would hope
Rigo falls into that IMO. He has all the tools to be something special but seems content to know he is more skilled than you. He had Ramos deathly afraid of him yet it tool rounds to finally finish him off. That to me is a flaw that other skilled fighters will eventually exploit
Gamboa seems to be the loan exception IMOComment
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But OMAR NARVAEZ, now that's a known name throughout the sport. All the casual fans know about little Omar, that's why they made a Donaire-Narvaez MEGA-FIGHT at MSG, because Omar is such a huge draw.
Rigondeaux, he's a no name, but Omar Narvaez, he's BIG TIME and that's why Team Donaire and Arum chose to make that fight.
All sarcasm aside, it's really funny how Garcia, Arum, and Nonito say "No one knows who Rigondeaux is", but yet they are coming off fighting OMAR F**KING NARVAEZ, who NO ONE knows outside of hardcore fans.
They just don't want to risk Nonito "I fight smaller guys every 5 seconds" Donaire against someone at 122 that can actually beat him.
Rigo matches him in foot speed and hand speed, is an accurate counter puncher, with great defense.
Mission Avoid Rigondeaux is in full effect, but I saw this coming ever since Rigo-Ramos was announced, and when Nonito was jumping to 122. I just hope Gamboa-Donaire is actually made at least, so Yuri can smash Nonito down.
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Yordanis Despaigne would disagree with the both of you, big time. As would Yudel Jhonson and Luis Franco.well I have always thought he had good skills
my issue, and I hope this doesn't come off bad, is that for the most part the Cuban pros that come through the ranks are technical proficient but seemingly content to be just that. There doesn't seem to be any "soul" to the fighting style and while it's great to see aesthetically it's not as entertaining as one would hope
Rigo falls into that IMO. He has all the tools to be something special but seems content to know he is more skilled than you. He had Ramos deathly afraid of him yet it tool rounds to finally finish him off. That to me is a flaw that other skilled fighters will eventually exploit
Gamboa seems to be the loan exception IMO
I think Rigo, Solis, Lara and Gamboa have gotten too much attention, people have forgotten about the other defectors. The "fighters".
Gamboa use to give us a show. After being clipped and knocked down several times, he began stinking the place up. Recently, though, his fights have ended too fast off of counter punches to really get an idea of where his mindframe is. I have the feeling, once given another task that doesn't end quickly (like the salido fight), he will prove your statement wrong again. Remember, he isn't that far removed from teh Barros snore and the Salido Clinch punch and clinch fest. People forget too easily.
In the end, I believe Yudel Jhonson will prove to be the hidden gem, as he is in teh same division as Lara and so no one hears of him. And Luis Franco will give people teh entertainment you don't get from the other fighters. Despaigne is a HELL of a lot of fun to watch, but he can't deliver wins consistently - too much of a head case.
As for teh statement about Rigo being exploited by other skilled fighters, doubtful. He's a safety first fight, I can name several that have gone many places. Hell, tell me when's the last time someone exploited Floyds safety first mindframe? He's clearly head and shoulders above his opposition, and knows it, but continues to wait anyhow. The objective here is to win. Unfortunately for the fans, some fighters are content with just that, but we (fans) tend to want more. Assuming Rigos intangibles are intact and he doesn't lose his cool under pressure - with his exerience, athleticism, reflexes and overall skill - He's more likely to make people respect him in the ring far before he makes them "dis" respect him.Last edited by intoccabile; 01-23-2012, 08:06 PM.Comment
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