No one knows who rigondeaux is!!!!!

[Eaner0919]

At the end of the day boxing is business, which is a shame.

why?

it's THEIR livelihoods not ours this is how they make their money so if someone wants to pursue a career path that makes them the most then who are we to **** on them?

you have to realize the window to make the most money in a boxing career is very small unless you truly achieve a Mayweather Cotto or Pacquiao status

[CubanGuyNYC]

why?

it's THEIR livelihoods not ours this is how they make their money so if someone wants to pursue a career path that makes them the most then who are we to **** on them?

you have to realize the window to make the most money in a boxing career is very small unless you truly achieve a Mayweather Cotto or Pacquiao status

I agree 100%. And I'll add this: The fighters and promoters offer a product; if I don't like that product, I'm not buying it. You wouldn't pay for food you dislike or buy clothes that don't suit your tastes, would you? Fans need to start voting with their wallets. Stop buying PPVs that don't meet your standards. They'll get the message. As long as fighters and promoters can make money on safe fights, they'll continue to do so.

[ИATAS]

why?

it's THEIR livelihoods not ours this is how they make their money so if someone wants to pursue a career path that makes them the most then who are we to **** on them?

you have to realize the window to make the most money in a boxing career is very small unless you truly achieve a Mayweather Cotto or Pacquiao status

yeah we all understand that about fighters making money and whatnot, but as fans of the SPORT of boxing it is a shame that's it's more business than a legit sport. name all the fights that should be happening but aren't happening because business is business. It's an endless list.

Not only does that suck for fans it also has hurt the sport tremendously, which really means that hurts many fighters pockets in the long run too.

[Eaner0919]

yeah we all understand that about fighters making money and whatnot, but as fans of the SPORT of boxing it is a shame that's it's more business than a legit sport. name all the fights that should be happening but aren't happening because business is business. It's an endless list.

Not only does that suck for fans it also has hurt the sport tremendously, which really means that hurts many fighters pockets in the long run too.

I get you bro and maybe it's because I work with fighters so often that I see their side more and more

as it pertains to this fight if I were Donaire, I get past WV2, I immediately look towards an Arce match

why? for obvious reasons money and exposure. It's an exciting fight while it lasts and it can boost Donaire's star potential

[ИATAS]

I get you bro and maybe it's because I work with fighters so often that I see their side more and more

as it pertains to this fight if I were Donaire, I get past WV2, I immediately look towards an Arce match

why? for obvious reasons money and exposure. It's an exciting fight while it lasts and it can boost Donaire's star potential

I understand that. but if that trend continues, at some point people are going to start really criticizing donaire for taking the "easy road", know what I'm saying?

I think Rigondeaux needs another good win or two before he fights Donaire, I do understand the importance of timing, so don't get me wrong. But at the end of the day, all I want is for the best to fight the best. And it just rarely ever happens these days.

[MJ223]

Guillermo has done nothing in the pros to make one think he'll beat Donaire. He hasn't beaten anyone of note and he hasn't had a great fight. What makes his fans (myself included) believe he can defeat anyone at 122 is his talent, foot and hand speed, skill and power. Of course, Rigo's amazing amateur career hasn't hurt our expectations. Do you base all your predictions on irrefutable evidence, or your considered observations?

I would say both..... And I don't disagree with your observation of Rigo..... To me though it doesn't say he'll win.... Hang definitely but win based off those attributes no.... He will be looking at a man with attributes to rival his....

I've also seen posters refer to the Narvaez fight as proof that Rigo would win because of his defense..... One thing about that comparison that sticks out to me is Narvaez kept his hands up and would occasionally turn Donaire without a lot of movement.... Compare that to the defense employed by Rigo after he got hurt vs Cordoba and to me it's night and day.... Narvaez used his feet to pivot with slight movement while Rigo basically ran.... I can't help but think that after 400 am fights he wouldn't have a better defensive option when hurt opposed to running.... I personally think if he fights Donaire and Rigo gets touched he will revert back to what works.....

Thoughts???

[Ringlife]

The guy needs to fight more that's all put the guy in PPV undercards or let him fight in Miami maybe he can create a fan base out there.

[Eaner0919]

I understand that. but if that trend continues, at some point people are going to start really criticizing donaire for taking the "easy road", know what I'm saying?

I think Rigondeaux needs another good win or two before he fights Donaire, I do understand the importance of timing, so don't get me wrong. But at the end of the day, all I want is for the best to fight the best. And it just rarely ever happens these days.

the way I see it pertaining to this fight is this

we all knew that after WV2, should he win, Top Rank and Donaire were targeting a big match up with Arce. In fact it looks like Arce is taking a tune up rather than fight someone of note. IMO I think it's specifically for this purpose

also I have heard that Nonito is willing to travel to Japan to face Nishioka as Nishioka told a few people he no longer had the desire to fight anywhere but in Japan.

in that span IMO Guillermo needs to establish himself as the only threat to Donaire.

Donaire going through WV2 Arce and Nishioka is pretty impressive IMO

[ИATAS]

it would be. Which leaves who available for Rigondeaux to make his case to be Donaire's opponent? See what I mean? It would be pretty impossible for Rigondeaux to fight anyone of note at 122 that would be "good enough" to get donaire. Who's left? Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym? Steve Molitor?

[CubanGuyNYC]

I would say both..... And I don't disagree with your observation of Rigo..... To me though it doesn't say he'll win.... Hang definitely but win based off those attributes no.... He will be looking at a man with attributes to rival his....

I've also seen posters refer to the Narvaez fight as proof that Rigo would win because of his defense..... One thing about that comparison that sticks out to me is Narvaez kept his hands up and would occasionally turn Donaire without a lot of movement.... Compare that to the defense employed by Rigo after he got hurt vs Cordoba and to me it's night and day.... Narvaez used his feet to pivot with slight movement while Rigo basically ran.... I can't help but think that after 400 am fights he wouldn't have a better defensive option when hurt opposed to running.... I personally think if he fights Donaire and Rigo gets touched he will revert back to what works.....

Thoughts???

I want to be clear: I don't think Rigo is ready for Donaire. However, I do believe that, even now, Guillermo can give Nonito a run for his money...perhaps even win. That in itself is saying a lot. I simply don't understand how anyone can predict that Rigondeaux will beat Donaire right now. It's just too much. I agree, "El Chacal" is an unusual boxing talent, perhaps even a Mayweatheresque talent. But, right now, Rigo only passes the so-called "eye test." Problem is, the "eye test" can be wrong. That's why I'm unwilling to commit this early, there's not quite enough evidence. Four hundred amateur fights can't be discounted, but they don't tell the whole story.

I agree with your assessment about Guillermo's reaction to adversity. The trouble with the Cuban fighters is that most have spent too much time in the amateurs. It's the language they speak. Now they're learning another language, the pros. As with anything else, when we're confronted with difficulty, we tend to revert back to what we're familiar with. I can't compare Rigondeaux with Narvaez; I didn't see his fight with Nonito. After I read what a snoozer it was, I didn't bother. Lol

Anyway, I've watched Guillermo, off and on, ever since he won his first Olympic gold medal. I remember thinking what a shame it was that this guy couldn't turn pro. Now, miracle of miracles, it's happened! I just hope it's not too late. Rigo is special. If he never fulfills his promise, it won't be because he didn't have the talent...it'll be because he was too old to learn another language.