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  • kiaba360
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    #81
    Originally posted by johncods
    Donaire has been aiming to fight Arce and Nishioka. Let's be honest those two bring more $$ to the table and are still very good fighters and are champions at the moment.
    There will be a multitude of excuses, but at the end of the day, i believe Team Donaire will see Rigo across from them, and simply walk away as if he doesn't exist. I think Donaire sees that the style match-up doesn't work in his favor. What he SHOULD try to do is become undisputed champ at 122 before he moves up. Why are we even talking about the 118 lb champions? Let Arce/Mares/Moreno fight it out to see who becomes a viable contender for Donaire. Why the **** would Donaire move up to fight for a vacant belt, just to move back down to fight them if there's no real incentive? Assuming that Donaire continues to move up from now on, the only viable opponents are the champs/big names at 122-126.

    One thing I find interesting, Boxrec has Donaire rated #1 super bantamweight, but the dude hasn't even FOUGHT there yet lol
    Last edited by kiaba360; 01-24-2012, 12:11 AM.

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    • puga
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      #82
      Originally posted by kiaba360
      There will be a multitude of excuses, but at the end of the day, i believe Team Donaire will see Rigo across from them, and simply walk away as if he doesn't exist. I think Donaire sees that the style match-up doesn't work in his favor. What he SHOULD try to do is become undisputed champ at 122 before he moves up. Why are we even talking about the 118 lb champions? Let Arce/Mares/Moreno fight it out to see who becomes a viable contender for Donaire. Why the **** would Donaire move up to fight for a vacant belt, just to move back down to fight them if there's no real incentive? Assuming that Donaire continues to move up from now on, the only viable opponents are the champs/big names at 122-126.

      One thing I find interesting, Boxrec has Donaire rated #1 super bantamweight, but the dude hasn't even FOUGHT there yet lol
      that would be impossible to do without fighting rigo...nishioka and rigo are #1 and 2 right now...if nonito beats nishioka he becomes #1...in order to be the lineal champion, fighter 1 and 2 needs to fight(unless #2 has a legit reason to not fight, then # 3 replaces him) and the winner is the lineal champion....
      Last edited by puga; 01-24-2012, 01:25 AM.

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      • Young Money
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        #83
        At the end of the day boxing is business, which is a shame.

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        • intoccabile
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          #84
          Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC

          I don't understand the comments about Gamboa "stinking the place up." I simply disagree. I believe Yuri to be, currently, the Cuban with the best chance at being a superstar. Gamboa has the style and ability to electrify.

          I see what you mean about Yudel; he could turn out to be a surprise. But your comments about Despaigne are confusing. Yordanis has lost only one fight. He really didn't look very impressive in losing to the "The Black Russian". In his next fight, Despaigne was rather embarrassing in a win against Edison Miranda. I really didn't like the way he played-up the low blows in order to get Miranda disqualified. That's supposed to be professional behavior? I think Despaigne's future as a pro is limited.
          Originally posted by jreckoning
          I thought the same thing about Despaigne. It was almost like I thought the poster was confusing him with someone else. LOL.

          I'm not confusing Yordanis at all. Did you stop following boxing? Despaigne just lost like 2 weeks ago against Cornelius White. So my comment still remains - he is a headcase and can't win fights consistently. Whenever he gets hit, or is unable to hit his man he starts to play the machismo role - all plans go out the window and he loses it.





          Yuri got on his heels and pot shotted in almost every fight he was given a challenge in. Most recently he began doing it against De Leon before the W came, and it was AWFUL watching 6-12 against Salido. Kellerman addresses it almost every fight, saying it's hard to tell which Yuri will show. The blitzkrieg that he started out as, or the subtle boxer that he's becoming - no doubt because of his questionable beard.
          Last edited by intoccabile; 01-24-2012, 01:26 AM.

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          • CubanGuyNYC
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            #85
            Originally posted by intoccabile

            I'm not confusing Yordanis at all. Did you stop following boxing? Despaigne just lost like 2 weeks ago against Cornelius White. So my comment still remains - he is a headcase and can't win fights consistently. Whenever he gets hit, or is unable to hit his man he starts to play the machismo role - all plans go out the window and he loses it.

            Yuri got on his heels and pot shotted in almost every fight he was given a challenge in. Most recently he began doing it against De Leon before the W came, and it was AWFUL watching 6-12 against Salido. Kellerman addresses it almost every fight, saying it's hard to tell which Yuri will show. The blitzkrieg that he started out as, or the subtle boxer that he's becoming - no doubt because of his questionable beard.
            No, I didn't stop following boxing; I stopped following Despaigne. Unbeknownst to me, Yordanis had already taken another step in solidifying my belief that he has limited career potential. Thanks for the update.

            Awful to watch the second half of the Salido fight? You (and Kellerman perhaps) are being a little too harsh on Gamboa. As for the Ponce fight, a different Yuri showed up, but I wasn't exactly disappointed. Sure it wasn't the Gamboa we all prefer, but he was far from boring. My assertion stands: Yuriorkis is the Cuban with the greatest potential star power. If he turns out to be a dud, then a dud is the best we've got. But...somehow I doubt that....

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              #86
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              No, I didn't stop following boxing; I stopped following Despaigne. Unbeknownst to me, Yordanis had already taken another step in solidifying my belief that he has limited career potential. Thanks for the update.

              Awful to watch the second half of the Salido fight? You (and Kellerman perhaps) are being a little too harsh on Gamboa. As for the Ponce fight, a different Yuri showed up, but I wasn't exactly disappointed. Sure it wasn't the Gamboa we all prefer, but he was far from boring. My assertion stands: Yuriorkis is the Cuban with the greatest potential star power. If he turns out to be a dud, then a dud is the best we've got. But...somehow I doubt that....
              I don't think I'm being harsh at all. Remember, my original comment was response to someone claiming that the Cubans (all but Yuri) have a boring style and don't entertain. So, I chimed in to shed light on the subject. Because I think the Despaigne, Franco, and Jhonson are all very exciting fighters that are being very much overlooked. And though Yuri does give you a show every now and then, he's capable of stinking the place out on occasion too.

              I just think too much emphasis is put on the cubans that are in the forefront at the moment. And I think Rigo is taking too much flack for being "patient". It bothers me, as I'm a big fan of all the cuban fighters (not so much a Solis fan). Franco especially, as I was one of Outlaws (eric hunters) training partners leading up to the night Franco made him quit. That made me check him out ,and man, he puts on a show too - that dude comes to ****.

              As for Yuri being a dud, I think he's already a star in his own right. But I do feel as though he is an accident waiting to happen. I question how he fairs against a good counter puncher, mainly one capable of taking his power. I question this because Yuris chin is always way up and it's gotten him clipped a LOT in his career. I can see it leading to his defeat one day - it's one of the things I always look to see if they've corrected and it still exists. Very easy to hit during exchanges.

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              • CubanGuyNYC
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                #87
                Originally posted by intoccabile
                I don't think I'm being harsh at all. Remember, my original comment was response to someone claiming that the Cubans (all but Yuri) have a boring style and don't entertain. So, I chimed in to shed light on the subject. Because I think the Despaigne, Franco, and Jhonson are all very exciting fighters that are being very much overlooked. And though Yuri does give you a show every now and then, he's capable of stinking the place out on occasion too.

                I just think too much emphasis is put on the cubans that are in the forefront at the moment. And I think Rigo is taking too much flack for being "patient". It bothers me, as I'm a big fan of all the cuban fighters (not so much a Solis fan). Franco especially, as I was one of Outlaws (eric hunters) training partners leading up to the night Franco made him quit. That made me check him out ,and man, he puts on a show too - that dude comes to ****.

                As for Yuri being a dud, I think he's already a star in his own right. But I do feel as though he is an accident waiting to happen. I question how he fairs against a good counter puncher, mainly one capable of taking his power. I question this because Yuris chin is always way up and it's gotten him clipped a LOT in his career. I can see it leading to his defeat one day - it's one of the things I always look to see if they've corrected and it still exists. Very easy to hit during exchanges.
                I suppose we define "exciting" and "entertaining" somewhat differently. I don't consider Despaigne either. Franco I've only seen a little of on Youtube. Jhonson I think might just have a future, but I wouldn't call Yudel particularly entertaining (nor boring, for that matter).

                There's a reason why only certain Cuban fighters are getting all the attention: they stand out. If any of the others stood out, or stand out in the future, they would get greater exposure. I'm glad you enjoy all these guys so much.

                Gamboa's chin and perceived lack of defense has been discussed on these boards ad nauseam. I'd like to steer our discussion back to its original focus: whether Yuri is exciting or not. You seem to think he's losing his edge in that department; I disagree. I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of fans would consider Gamboa the most electrifying of the Cuban fighters around today, even if he's been a little less than stellar lately.

                Good luck in your career.

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                • Dustaine
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by onechance87
                  Would like to still see the fight.But rigo is a nobody.He hasint fought
                  noone and has no fans.
                  STFU, puta.

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                  • MJ223
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                    #89
                    I understand the am part of his career which is certainly impressive..... But what has he done in the PROS in his 9 fight career to make ppl think he's gonna stop the Donaire hype if he gets a chance???

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                    • CubanGuyNYC
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by MJ223
                      I understand the am part of his career which is certainly impressive..... But what has he done in the PROS in his 9 fight career to make ppl think he's gonna stop the Donaire hype if he gets a chance???
                      Guillermo has done nothing in the pros to make one think he'll beat Donaire. He hasn't beaten anyone of note and he hasn't had a great fight. What makes his fans (myself included) believe he can defeat anyone at 122 is his talent, foot and hand speed, skill and power. Of course, Rigo's amazing amateur career hasn't hurt our expectations. Do you base all your predictions on irrefutable evidence, or your considered observations?
                      Last edited by CubanGuyNYC; 01-24-2012, 12:10 PM.

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