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  • #61
    Originally posted by Superflo777 View Post
    Yeah, cause he was the reigning IBF, WBO, IBO, and the Ring lightweight champion for 6 years throughout.

    What does that have to do with anything? You claimed no one would care about their opposition if they were from Oklahoma. O'Grady is from Oklahoma. He sports an incredible 81-5 career record with 70 ko's. So if we're to take your statement as truth you should have no problem explaining why O'Grady isn't mentioned amongst the greatest lightweights.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      What does that have to do with anything? You claimed no one would care about their opposition if they were from Oklahoma. O'Grady is from Oklahoma. He sports an incredible 81-5 career record with 70 ko's. So if we're to take your statement as truth you should have no problem explaining why O'Grady isn't mentioned amongst the greatest lightweights.
      I wasn't generalizing. Pacquiao is popular despite not being American because he's fighting there and has American promoters. In Klitschko's case they're not popular because they're neither born Americans nor fighting out of America.

      To simplify it: Only because there is one American fighter that wasn't popular (as you put it) it doesn't mean there are no fighters that don't get the credit they deserve because they're not American.
      Last edited by Superflo777; 01-23-2012, 05:30 AM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Superflo777 View Post
        I wasn't generalizing. Pacquiao is popular despite not being American because he's fighting there and has American promoters. In Klitschko's case they're not popular because they're neither born Americans nor fighting out of America.

        Pacquiao is popular all over the world because he is exciting and has a fantastic resume. How popular would he be if he fought only B level fighters and never had wins over fighters like JMM, MAB, Morales, Hatton, DLH, Cotto and Mosley? I'd say about as popular as he was in about 2000, 2001. Has nothing to do with nationality, thats just an excuse the die hards need to believe in to rationalize why not everybody worships at the house of Klit the same way they do. Bottom line is resume most certainly IS important. If it weren't guys like O'Grady and LaMarr Clark would be ranked amongst the best fighters ever in their respective divisions.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
          Man, I've seen way worse than Vitali. His brother for one. I don't believe the Lewis story, and you are right about the HW div, but who has he lost to, ducked, or avoided?
          Byrd(rematch), Lewis(rematch), Rahman, Ruiz & Toney.


          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          I'd have to go over my list again but between seeing who I do have, their opponents and having gone over countless articles from the day I believe my opinion is an educated one if not an expert one. V is a great fighter, his quality of competition just doesn't hold up to the true greats. I think he's an all time threat at heavy, but that's simply not able to be proven.
          How can you be refered to as a great fighter, and placed in league with great fighters when you're not even proven against great fighters? That makes no sense, bro.

          Refering to Vitali as a great fighter and in the same breath acknowledging that he has beaten nothing but shit tier opposition is about as oxymoronic as it gets. There's just no justification for calling a Vit "a great fighter" with a resume as sub-par as his. He has stoppage losses to the only 2 decent opponents he's ever faced. That's not evidence of a great fighter.


          Originally posted by Ogecca MaMa View Post
          ya'll fools who hate on Vitaly. Vitaly is real man
          Vitali is steroid abusing cheater and a glass hearted quitter. There's nothing manly about being a quitter and a cheater.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Crazy Training View Post
            The thing I love about Vitali is he fights 3 x a year minimum. Respect. Not many guys at the top of the game do that anymore. I enjoy Vitali more than I do Wladimir. The only exciting thing to watch with Wladimir is to see if his chinny chin chin will hold up one more fight lol
            Wladimir has a decent chin his chin is as good as Lewis' chin

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            • #66
              Vitali is already a legend

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              • #67
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                Pacquiao is popular all over the world because he is exciting and has a fantastic resume. How popular would he be if he fought only B level fighters and never had wins over fighters like JMM, MAB, Morales, Hatton, DLH, Cotto and Mosley? I'd say about as popular as he was in about 2000, 2001. Has nothing to do with nationality, thats just an excuse the die hards need to believe in to rationalize why not everybody worships at the house of Klit the same way they do. Bottom line is resume most certainly IS important. If it weren't guys like O'Grady and LaMarr Clark would be ranked amongst the best fighters ever in their respective divisions.
                Pacquiao was NEVER popular in Europe, except maybe a little in the UK. In continental Europe, he is completely unknown to >99% of the population.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Superflo777 View Post
                  Pacquiao was NEVER popular in Europe, except maybe a little in the UK. In continental Europe, he is completely unknown to >99% of the population.
                  Have you got factual evidence to back that up or did you just make that figure up out of thin air?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Jedi Vader View Post
                    Have you got factual evidence to back that up or did you just make that figure up out of thin air?
                    He totally just pulled it out of his ass, but to be fair Pacquiao is really only popular in countries with large populations of Filipinos abroad. As far as Europe goes, there aren't any countries I can think of that meet those criteria.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Jedi Vader View Post
                      Have you got factual evidence to back that up or did you just make that figure up out of thin air?
                      I live in Europe. I can tell what the people are talking about & who they don't even know the name of (Pacquiao).

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