Would you favour any Heavyweight in the history of boxing to beat Prime Ali?

[cupocity303]

He won a title by beating Sam Peter.

Vitali coming out of a 4 year retirement and beating Sam Peter for the WBC Title, right off the bat, without any tune-up's >>>> Ali coming out of a 3.5 year retirement and beating Jerry Quarry and losing to Joe Frazier a year later.

Just saying.

[Mr. Invincible]

Larry Holmes beat Ken Norton with a severely torn shoulder. Vitali decided his stool was more comfortable. That's the difference betweena great fighter and one that only beats great fighters in fantasy fights.

Ok, so you know for fact that both of those fellows had just as bad of a torn rotator cuffs as Vitali. Ok, cool. I thought you were a normal guy. I didn't know you got medical reports on pro hw boxers injuries and were qualified to examine them. My bad dude, I figured you all wrong.

[joseph5620]

Lol, you have not a single fact but Ali not winning the championship at the exact age of 31. So ****in what. I didn't want to do exact research because it's just not worth it to me. Like so many others, you are stuck on media hype. Because a guy calls himself the greatest, he must be. Yay!!! Here's a dose of reality, most guys Ali beat that were considered great was because they were allowed to be percieved as great because of close fights with him. Frazier would be a damn bum today. Another hopeless Klitschko victim. He would not be competitive with Vitali and would never have had a chance to become a world champ. Wlad today would have bombed him out of there with the first hard left hook he threw or straight right. If you think otherwise, you don't know boxing near as well as you think you do. And if you think you got the better of me and not the other way around, that's further delusion that exists only in your head.

You keep up your delusion while the Klitschko's control the division ok. Cool.

You didn't do the research because you don't "research". You just claim Vitali could beat any fighter in history with absolutely nothing to back it up. So you would rather lie and make fantasy fights in which Vitali "dominates" fighters like Ali. Of course the Klitschko's have enough delusional idiots like you that buy into that BS.

Foreman was great because he was a devastating puncher and knocked out prime Frazier early and twice. AND he came back and won a world title at 45. No other fighter ever did that to Frazier. Foreman was also an Olympic Gold medalist like your God Wladimir. Liston was great because he dominated the division before he lost to Ali. Rocky Marciano called Liston great and thought Ali made a bad move by fighting Liston. Ali was an underdog against both Foreman and Liston so your ignorance is overwhelming you here.

Anybody questioning Frazier's greatness is too ****** for words.

Bottom line. If Vitali struggled with Byrd and past prime, overweight Lewis, he aint dominating prime Ali or any other great heavyweight. Sorry but Vitlai's fantasy resume doesn't have any credibility. None. Dream on.

[Mr. Invincible]

And you have nerve calling Ali's opponents "bums" when Ali beat Liston, Frazier, Foreman, Norton and top fighters like Quarry, Lyle and Shavers.



Vitali's best win is over a former light heavyweight that lost to Chad Dawson. He won a title by beating Sam Peter. Ali beat Liston and Foreman for his. And yes, I think your dumb enough to claim that Peter was on the level of either one because you clearly talk out of your ass.



And Vitlai was "pu..y enough to quit against Byrd.

Quarry, lol.........How about the bums with ten plus losses to other club fighters that he faced every other fight? I trust I don't need to list them.

Vitali the p*ssy is considered the baddest heavyweight in the world now going on ten years. 13-2(11) in title fights, retired 4 years and still reigns @ 40 years old beating up on younger top ten opponents.

Yea what a p*ssy he is. That alone shows how ignorant you are any why I don't need to even be having this conversation with somebody so dense.

[joseph5620]

Quarry, lol.........How about the bums with ten plus losses to other club fighters that he faced every other fight? I trust I don't need to list them.

Vitali the p*ssy is considered the baddest heavyweight in the world now going on ten years. 13-2(11) in title fights, retired 4 years and still reigns @ 40 years old beating up on younger top ten opponents.

Yea what a p*ssy he is. That alone shows how ignorant you are any why I don't need to even be having this conversation with somebody so dense.

You laugh at Quarry because you don't know anything about him. Actually you're not even really laughing.

Quarry was a better fighter than fat Sam Peter. Fact.


Vitali is not the baddest heavyweight when he has not beaten his greatest challenge in the division...L-O-L that.



* Come out with list of "bums" Quarry lost to in his prime? I know you're doing your boxrec thing so if you dare make that list I will glady destroy you.


Go....

[Mr. Invincible]

You laugh at Quarry because you don't know anything about him. Actually you're not even really laughing.

Quarry was a better fighter than fat Sam Peter. Fact.


Vitali is not the baddest heavyweight when he has not beaten his greatest challenge in the division...L-O-L that.

Peter at the time would have literally decapitated Quarry. ****ing literally.

I see you know all there is to know about the post Klitschko Peter huh.

I don't know why I even respond to you. Quarry was crap. Half of Wlad's resume would have stopped him.

[joseph5620]

Vitali coming out of a 4 year retirement and beating Sam Peter for the WBC Title, right off the bat, without any tune-up's >>>> Ali coming out of a 3.5 year retirement and beating Jerry Quarry and losing to Joe Frazier a year later.

Just saying.

Yeah because Frazier and Peter are so comparable.


And Quarry was better than Peter. Just saying.

[joseph5620]

Peter at the time would have literally decapitated Quarry. ****ing literally.

I see you know all there is to know about the post Klitschko Peter huh.

I don't know why I even respond to you. Quarry was crap. Half of Wlad's resume would have stopped him.

Would have, could have. The story of the Klitschko's career as well as their opponents. Too bad none of it is factual. I can give you this fact, Quarry beat more top heavyweights than Peter.



Still waiting on that list of bums that beat prime Quarry. What's the hold up?



You never came back with the list of fighters in Joe Louis era that punched as hard as Joe so I don't expect a response. That's the REAL reason you don't want to respond to me. You don't have any answers.

[Mr. Invincible]

You laugh at Quarry because you don't know anything about him. Actually you're not even really laughing.

Quarry was a better fighter than fat Sam Peter. Fact.


Vitali is not the baddest heavyweight when he has not beaten his greatest challenge in the division...L-O-L that.



* Come out with list of "bums" Quarry lost to in his prime? I know you're doing your boxrec thing so if you dare make that list I will glady destroy you.


Go....

Bum, bum bum bum bum. Quarry was a bum. Adamek would have stopped him in 5 let alone pre Vitali Sam Peter.

Quarry had not one title fight win or a significant win at all. Keep trying. This is amusing.

Try Chuvalo........oh, nevermind. Ha ha ha. Pathetic.

You know their names because Ali fought them. Period, now shut that ****hole u call a mouth.

I'm tired of your hating garbage. Just keep watching reruns of those fights and I'll keep catching the new title defenses in the Klitschko's growing legacy.

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[Money Shot]

I'd back Ali to find a way to win against anybody, Klits, early Tyson, Lewis the lot. He was that kind of person.