Would you favour any Heavyweight in the history of boxing to beat Prime Ali?

[joseph5620]

@ 31 and still winning championship fights and not being called prime is just opinion. And yea, I'll think how I like and think barring injury, Vitali puts a beating on any version of Ali. Have a good one.

Ali didn't win a championship at 31 so know what you're talking about before speaking on the topic. Ali said he was past his prime. His trainer said he was past his prime. And every credible person in boxing knew he was past his prime.


I gave you credit for playing dumb. But apparently you really are that ******.

[Mr. Invincible]

Yes, you're entitled to your opinion no matter how ****** it is.

****** based on your opinion maybe. Ok, call it a wash. I think you are delusional, you think I am. That doesn't make you or I right.

[Mr. Invincible]

One member of the HBO crew called Vitali a coward and a quitter with no disagreements. I suppose you agreed with that too right?

It's easy to jump up and pop off like that at the time not knowing the severity of the injury. Look at what Hopkins faced against Dawson. That's the way it goes. They agree he was winning handily and so do those who saw the fight that don't dispise the Klitschko's and their dominance of heavyweight boxing that has now lasted almost the longest in history.

[joseph5620]

It's easy to jump up and pop off like that at the time not knowing the severity of the injury. Look at what Hopkins faced against Dawson. That's the way it goes. They agree he was winning handily and so do those who saw the fight that don't dispise the Klitschko's and their dominance of heavyweight boxing that has now lasted almost the longest in history.

Larry Holmes beat Ken Norton with a severely torn shoulder. Vitali decided his stool was more comfortable. That's the difference betweena great fighter and one that only beats great fighters in fantasy fights.

[cupocity303]

Of course I would favor to beat a prime Ali. But I won't disclose who.

I'll leave it up to you to guess.

[joseph5620]

****** based on your opinion maybe. Ok, call it a wash. I think you are delusional, you think I am. That doesn't make you or I right.

It's a "wash" because I'm coming with facts while you're coming up with fantasy mixed in with flat out lies.



Ali did not win any championship fights at 31.


Ali beat great fighters.


Vitali has never beaten even one great fighter outside of your fantasy world. That is the wash.


And yes, that makes me right.

[joseph5620]

It's easy to jump up and pop off like that at the time not knowing the severity of the injury. Look at what Hopkins faced against Dawson. That's the way it goes. They agree he was winning handily and so do those who saw the fight that don't dispise the Klitschko's and their dominance of heavyweight boxing that has now lasted almost the longest in history.

No, it's easy for you to use the HBO team as "right" when it benefits you. You have a double standard and I love exposing it.


And Larry Merchant never changed his opinion on that fight and neither did the other commentators. Come up with something different because that won't work for you.

[Mr. Invincible]

Ali didn't win a championship at 31 so know what you're talking about before speaking on the topic. Ali said he was past his prime. His trainer said he was past his prime. And every credible person in boxing knew he was past his prime.


I gave you credit for playing dumb. But apparently you really are that ******.

Oh, I'm so far off, he beat Foreman @ 32. Wow. Do you realize that if Ali would have been champ @ 40 still, he would have to had still been champ still in 1982? That's big man.

Ok, so Ali fell out of his prime when exactly? Was it when he took a 2.5 year break, returned at age 28, had two tune up fights and then lost the championship, then went on to be very successful afterwards, losing to Frazier @ 29? Or did he lost it after the Liston fight when p*ssy a55 Liston acted like he got cold ****ed by a punch with no more force than Klitschko's wind from his jab?

Look, I understand the hype with Ali, etc. but most of his opposition were bums. The only reason they were even recognized at all were because they fought Ali and made competitive fights with him. Can you imagine how Vitali would be criticized right now if he faced a guy with the skill level of a Chuvalo, Cooper, Blin or Wepner and was in a competitive fight? It would be unreal.

[joseph5620]

Oh, I'm so far off, he beat Foreman @ 32. Wow. Do you realize that if Ali would have been champ @ 40 still, he would have to had still been champ still in 1982? That's big man.

Ok, so Ali fell out of his prime when exactly? Was it when he took a 2.5 year break, returned at age 28, had two tune up fights and then lost the championship, then went on to be very successful afterwards, losing to Frazier @ 29? Or did he lost it after the Liston fight when p*ssy a55 Liston acted like he got cold ****ed by a punch with no more force than Klitschko's wind from his jab?

Look, I understand the hype with Ali, etc. but most of his opposition were bums. The only reason they were even recognized at all were because they fought Ali and made competitive fights with him. Can you imagine how Vitali would be criticized right now if he faced a guy with the skill level of a Chuvalo, Cooper, Blin or Wepner and was in a competitive fight? It would be unreal.

Ali was close to 33 when he beat Foreman. That's not the same as 31. I guess you should have relied on your boxrec research for that one. But you were talking out of your ass. Again.

And you have nerve calling Ali's opponents "bums" when Ali beat Liston, Frazier, Foreman, Norton and top fighters like Quarry, Lyle and Shavers.



Vitali's best win is over a former light heavyweight that lost to Chad Dawson. He won a title by beating Sam Peter. Ali beat Liston and Foreman for the undisputed championship. And yes, I think you're dumb enough to claim that Peter was on the level of either one because you clearly talk out of your ass.



And Vitlali was "pu..y enough to quit against Byrd. In a fight he was supposedly "dominating".

[Mr. Invincible]

It's a "wash" because I'm coming with facts while you're coming up with fantasy mixed in with flat out lies.



Ali did not win any championship fights at 31.


Ali beat great fighters.


Vitali has never beaten even one great fighter outside of your fantasy world. That is the wash.


And yes, that makes me right.

Lol, you have not a single fact but Ali not winning the championship at the exact age of 31. So ****in what. I didn't want to do exact research because it's just not worth it to me. Like so many others, you are stuck on media hype. Because a guy calls himself the greatest, he must be. Yay!!! Here's a dose of reality, most guys Ali beat that were considered great was because they were allowed to be percieved as great because of close fights with him. Frazier would be a damn bum today. Another hopeless Klitschko victim. He would not be competitive with Vitali and would never have had a chance to become a world champ. Wlad today would have bombed him out of there with the first hard left hook he threw or straight right. If you think otherwise, you don't know boxing near as well as you think you do. And if you think you got the better of me and not the other way around, that's further delusion that exists only in your head.

You keep up your delusion while the Klitschko's control the division ok. Cool.