Would you favour any Heavyweight in the history of boxing to beat Prime Ali?

[Vadrigar.]

I doubt we'll see one.

Here is mine

1. Ray Leonard over Marvin Hagler
2. Muhammad Ali over Big George
3. Douglas shocking Tyson
4. Joe Louis over Max Schmeling
5. Henry Armstrong over Barney Ross (126 lb champ beating the 147 lb champ)
6. Harry Greb over Gene Tunney
7. Cassius Clay over Sonny Liston
8. Jake Lamotta over Ray Robinson
9. Joe Frazier over Muhammad Ali
10. JC Chavez Sr. Over Meldrick Taylor/Foreman over Moorer

Duran over Leonard?

[turbotime]

Duran over Leonard?

An honourable mention most certainly. Hopkins/Trinidad as well.

[hogey]

Prime Ali nobody gets near him, the latter version still beats them all but has to work a lot harder doing it.

[Mr. Invincible]

Goddamn, I don't even know what to say. Ali over Foreman might be the greatest win any fighter ever had, and Liston was a shocking win for Ali.

Do you honestly think Vitali would have any trouble with Foreman at that time? Really? He had no boxing skills whatsoever and very little defense. That win was good but way overrated because it was Ali and his big mouth. Best win there ever was, I lol'd at that. One of the most significant historically maybe, but best, not even close to being close.

[Mr. Invincible]

You believe in Santa Claus too I'm guessing

The santa thing was funny the last time you used it........not.

Vitali dominates the competition making them seem sub par but in actuality they would still have been considered good opposition on Ali's resume' after 6-11 losses or so. If Vitali dominates an undefeated hopeful, he get's zero credit by you losers. You just don't recognize greatness. Nationality, religion and race should have nothing to do with it. But unfortunately, it does.

[bojangles1987]

Do you honestly think Vitali would have any trouble with Foreman at that time? Really? He had no boxing skills whatsoever and very little defense. That win was good but way overrated because it was Ali and his big mouth. Best win there ever was, I lol'd at that. One of the most significant historically maybe, but best, not even close to being close.

After the ****** stuff you've said, I'm not bothering talking to you man. You're just trolling.

[ScrotieMcBooger]

Nationality, religion and race should have nothing to do with it. But unfortunately, it does.

And that's why you worship them, because they have the "correct" pigmentation and national origin. Like most Klitschko nuthuggers you're obsessed with ethnic nationalism, hence your belief in Santa and the Easter Bunny

[Tiozzo]

Yet Ali win won near shut out decisions over Chuvalo twice.

All I'm saying is that it's not hard to imagine the men that beat him post lay-off would also have beaten him pre lay-off, cause they had the styles to trouble Ali

[Tiozzo]

I guarantee that if a poll was taken of the biggest and best wins any fighter ever had, Ali over Foreman would be up there, if not the fight most mentioned.

Ali had lost twice in his comeback, Foreman was one of the most intimidating forces the division had ever seen, he had obliterated the two fighters who beat Ali, both in two rounds, and everyone thought Ali's health was in jeopardy. Ali knocked him out in eight, that was inconceivable, pretty much everyone agreed. Not to mention all the pre-fight pageantry.

It's not crazy at all to say Ali KO8 Foreman was the greatest win ever, it's up there.

Name 3 greater.

I can only think of Leonard over Hagler at the moment.

I don't think there is such a thing as a greatest win ever

Ali over Foreman was a huge upset, but at the end of the day, you had a heavyweight, a former champ, challenging the new champ

I'm personnaly more impressed by fighters moving up in weight and wrestling the crown from a bigger opponent, but that's me, and as I said, I don't try to rank wins they way you do, it's just so subjective

[Mr. Invincible]

Yet Ali win won near shut out decisions over Chuvalo twice.

Good point, near shutout. Do you think Chuvalo would have won a round against Vitali or survived 12-15 rounds at all? No f'n way. I know you will have some biased short sighted and witty comeback so just save your breath. You are delusional.