Why is Ray Leonard not considered the GOAT?

[The_Sandman]

There is always going to be a "he could've fought this guy, he could've fought that guy" argument with almost everyone.

When you get to a certain level in boxing, trust me, they all pick and choose.

[BattlingNelson]

Wauw.

So many gems in this thread.

[Mr. President]

Because fighters like Floyd Mayweather, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson and Joe Louis have existed.

[Dudley]

And? This means what exactly?

And @ Mayweather Sr being the orginal creator of that style. He's not.

orginal is spelled original actually. picky picky...

[BattlingNelson]

Because fighters like Floyd Mayweather, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson and Joe Louis have existed.

The hits just keep on coming.

[IronDanHamza]

orginal is spelled original actually. picky picky...

Oh no, a spelling mistake. **** happens.

Try responding to the bull**** points you made.

1. Mayweather Sr is not the originator of that style.

2. The fact Ray Leonard beat Mayweather Sr with such ease obviously does not automatically mean he beats Mayweather Jr.

Just because they have a similar style doesn't mean the fight would play out the same.

They have vastly differing attributes. Mayweather Jr does everything to a much higher level than Mayweather Sr. And they are different fighters.

Mayweather Sr Vs Leonard is completely irrelevant in regards to how a Mayweather Jr Vs Leonard fight would play out.

[BattlingNelson]

Oh no, a spelling mistake. **** happens.

Try responding to the bull**** points you made.

1. Mayweather Sr is not the originator of that style.

2. The fact Ray Leonard beat Mayweather Sr with such ease obviously does not automatically mean he beats Mayweather Jr.

Just because they have a similar style doesn't mean the fight would play out the same.

They have vastly differing attributes. Mayweather Jr does everything to a much higher level than Mayweather Sr. And they are different fighters.

Mayweather Sr Vs Leonard is completely irrelevant in regards to how a Mayweather Jr Vs Leonard fight would play out.

As I recall it Leonard did not beat Mayweather particularly easy. It's also worth remembering that Leonard was only a prospect at the time. About 12-0 or thereabout.

[Evil Abed]

No way, no way, an no way.

I think you can make a arguments for Dempsey and Jack.

They both have all-time accomplishments.

Rocky was reaching.

[IronDanHamza]

As I recall it Leonard did not beat Mayweather particularly easy. It's also worth remembering that Leonard was only a prospect at the time. About 12-0 or thereabout.

I consider it relatively one-sided. I mean, it wasn't an complete blow out but I wouldn't consider it competitive.

And yeah, he was still an absolute prospect.

Both of these are besides the point, though.

The fact remains that the Mayweather Sr-Leonard fight is completely and utterly irrelevant in regards to who would win between Mayweather Jr and Leonard.

Me personally? I'd pick Ray Leonard by a close by clear Decision, UD.

[IronDanHamza]

I think you can make a arguments for Dempsey and Jack.

They both have all-time accomplishments.

Rocky was reaching.

All 3 are reaching.

Their resume's pale in comparison to Ray Leonard's.