Why Floyd is a better counter puncher than Marquez

[puga]

jmm is better counterpuncher than floyd...floyd is all right straight counter and occasional left counter...jmm counters with EVRYTHING....jmm hands down is the best counter puncher right now....even i think nonito is better counter puncher than floyd...

[intoccabile]

Reach disadvantages become more of an issue as a fighter moves up in weight because their mobility suffers so they can't use their feat to change range as effectively as they could at lower weight classes.

It wasnt just a reach advantage. It was an ability advantage. He won that fight solely on being a better athlete, and more patient. Making Marquez be first every time and never giving him a chance to do what he wants to do; counter.

That fight would have looked the same at any weight.

[COACH WEBB]

Hey comes baracuda storming in...saying he thinks even Doniare is a better counter puncher!

[IMDAZED]

Freitas wasn't old.

You don't have to be "old" in order to be finished. It was the last fight of his career (against Diaz) - no one took Freitas seriously at that point. He had already been exposed and the Casamayor bout occurred five years earlier. You're being dense on purpose and I don't blame you because you're argument is pretty lame.

[IMDAZED]

Hey comes baracuda storming in...saying he thinks even Doniare is a better counter puncher!

Add him to ignore. Seriously. Some of these guys don't even know how to be decent Pac fanatics. He's one of them and doesn't deserve discussion or even a second look.

[puga]

Hey comes baracuda storming in...saying he thinks even Doniare is a better counter puncher!

when has floyd destroyed a montiel or darch types of fighters out of a counterpunch?......

[puga]

Add him to ignore. Seriously. Some of these guys don't even know how to be decent Pac fanatics. He's one of them and doesn't deserve discussion or even a second look.

he already has me on ignore like you had me on ignore mr ped expert.....lol

[COACH WEBB]

Add him to ignore. Seriously. Some of these guys don't even know how to be decent Pac fanatics. He's one of them and doesn't deserve discussion or even a second look.

he already has me on ignore like you had me on ignore mr ped expert.....lol

That's on my other account. But after this Donaire statement, you've made the coveted list.

[Light_Speed]

He obviously has to change he's style with a boxer cause there would be no fight . Since the boxer wont be the aggressor just jab and moving no more than 2 punches he cant wait all night to counter

You can actually counter while coming forward and engaging your opponent. JMM is just not great at it.

Doubt it. Casamayor needs his space to work, he would have been very uncomfortable with the kind of workrate that Diaz puts in.

He's also a good spoiler and can cut down his opponent's workrate by moving and holding. Ask Katsidis.

when has floyd destroy a montiel or darch types of fighters out of a counterpunch?......

Do you consider Montiel and Darchinyan better than Hatton?

[brick wall]

damn poor cuahtemoc...he got mobbed by zealous floyd fanboys

as far as these morons are concerned, floyd is the best at everything. he's counterpunching is limited and yet to these simpletons he's still the best

they reason out that floyd doesn't get hit a lot...well that's defense for you not counterpunching.
his timing and accuracy is the best they say but that's because of his reflexes not counterpunching.

floyd fought hatton and hatton was coming forward at him all night...yes he counterpunched him while moving backwards but limited to just one punch or 2-punch at most. he had to use his holding skills and pointed elbows to deflect hatton's attack. it was uncomfortable for him eventhough he was fighting a come forward fighter with his chin up in the air. if that's what the best counterpuncher can do then boxing is ****ed up.