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  • #71
    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
    Judah is not a workrate fighter. He does not throw over 1,000 punches to look good. Zab is a boxer puncher who likes to potshot and throws occasional combos. With his handspeed and southpaw stance, that bothered Floyd for like, 2 rounds. Judah is one of the few fighters who have actually matched Floyd in reach, both of them being 72". Pacquiao is 67".


    Manny is a workrate fighter with horrible accuracy and short arms. He can't box with a boxer, and he can not fight against a counterpuncher. Marquez proved that already. When Manny can't throw 1,000 punches, he can't beat you. And Manny will not throw 1,000 punches to a counterpuncher as big and strong as Floyd.
    That's what I keep saying Manny can only hope to land one lucky clean punch that might rock Money or try to throw thousands of punches to win on activity. It's not going to happen with the size and reach difference Maywether has on top of the speed and skill.

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    • #72
      judah dismantaed mayweather in the first half

      second half mayweather destroyed him

      theres a pattern in all mayweather fights- he starts slow- and doesn't commit to a game plan untill he figures out the other guy

      his in ring adjustments are the greatest in boxing history

      however- the fact he never tested himself at the highest levels during his prime and the fact that he took long leaves of absence whenever a credible challenger cam along make him below pacman in the ATG rankings

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      • #73
        Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
        Judah is not a workrate fighter. He does not throw over 1,000 punches to look good. Zab is a boxer puncher who likes to potshot and throws occasional combos. With his handspeed and southpaw stance, that bothered Floyd for like, 2 rounds. Judah is one of the few fighters who have actually matched Floyd in reach, both of them being 72". Pacquiao is 67".


        Manny is a workrate fighter with horrible accuracy and short arms. He can't box with a boxer, and he can not fight against a counterpuncher. Marquez proved that already. When Manny can't throw 1,000 punches, he can't beat you. And Manny will not throw 1,000 punches to a counterpuncher as big and strong as Floyd.

        Lands on average half of is power punches, some might say that is pretty good.

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        • #74
          Manny is smaller than Judah and has much shorter arms.

          Zab has the same range as Floyd, so Floyd can't just stay out of range if he is in punching range for himself Judah can land back.

          Manny is smaller and has shorter arms, so even if he is a better more capable fighter Floyd can land without being in danger as long as he plays it smart.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
            Judah is not a workrate fighter. He does not throw over 1,000 punches to look good. Zab is a boxer puncher who likes to potshot and throws occasional combos. With his handspeed and southpaw stance, that bothered Floyd for like, 2 rounds. Judah is one of the few fighters who have actually matched Floyd in reach, both of them being 72". Pacquiao is 67".


            Manny is a workrate fighter with horrible accuracy and short arms. He can't box with a boxer, and he can not fight against a counterpuncher. Marquez proved that already. When Manny can't throw 1,000 punches, he can't beat you. And Manny will not throw 1,000 punches to a counterpuncher as big and strong as Floyd.
            People forget about Zab's reach all the time. His speed and reach are not things you can learn in the gym. Zab simply wasn't dedicated to the sport as much as he was to Brooklyn.

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            • #76
              Judah was faster and had 2 hands.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                Lands on average half of is power punches, some might say that is pretty good.
                Against fighters that stand in front of him and come forward. I think that has to be factored in.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by FeFist View Post
                  Judah gave Floyd problems because he boxed with him, set traps, timed him on a few occasions. Things Pacquiao can not do.

                  Aside from being a southpaw and having quick hands they do not fight alike.

                  Judah didn't even give Mayweather problems, he was competitive for 4 rounds then got dominated.
                  ^^^^This......

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    Lands on average half of is power punches, some might say that is pretty good.
                    What percentage of his power shots has he landed in his 3 fights with Marquez? Rhetorical question.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                      If you count the knockdown when Zab put floyd on his ass and the 12 round which Zab DOMINATED , than Zab wins that fight. Floyd got a gift decision and he knows it. He also got a gift decision against butt plug de la hoya

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