Question? If Floyd had problems with Zab Judah, why not Pac

[Shogunofharlem1]

Apples and oranges. Zabs a south paw counterpuncher whose style is reminicent of floyds in the area of trap setting. However unlike floyd had real lazy streaks where he would get caught by fighters hes had better technical skills than. Floyds too scared of loosing that 0 which is why he trains like a madman. Zab is another natural athlete but lacked the same determination , and hard work that both Manny and Floyd possess.

[BuckToothed]

Here is a beginners problem right in your post ,

IT WAS NOT THE SAME HATTON THAT PAC BEAT .

Let me guess your agenda, because Hatton got TKO10 by Floyd at Welter?
Took his cherry did he?

You can argue how Hatton is not the same fighter, but getting "hattoned" in 2 rounds while having Big Floyd on your corner is a big accomplishment for Pac.

Don't forget that Hatton was also the lineal champ at 140 and Manny KO2 him in his first fight at JWW.

[D4thincarnation]

I didn't say that his percentage was bad, I didn't say what his percentage was. I'm not 1 of these guys that take compubox punch stats as the Gospel. When I speak it's on the strength of what I've seen with my own eyes. Watching Pacquiao in his 3 fights with Marquez, he misses a lot and misses badly a lot. At times, Cotto had Pacquiao missing badly and looking wild. Enough with this "run" nonsense, it's called boxing. I just don't undersand why socalled boxing fans have such little appreciation for the actual art of boxing.

Running to survive, not boxing, Cotto after the 4th and Mosley after the 3rd were not in a contest anymore, they just tried to survive.

Cotto did try a few time to fight back but when he did Pacquiao wailed on him and took the fight out of him again.

And compubox stats check out for me.

[thatnickuh]

Running to survive, not boxing, Cotto after the 4th and Mosley after the 3rd were not in a contest anymore, they just tried to survive.

Cotto did try a few time to fight back but when he did Pacquiao wailed on him and took the fight out of him again.

And compubox stats check out for me.

There were times when Cotto was just rying to survive, and there were times where he was successfully boxing against Pacquiao, slipping his punches while catching Pacquiao clean. The point being that when faced against an opponent who is able to box, Pacquiao can be made to look wild and inaccurate. What is your point, that what I just said is false?

[D4thincarnation]

There were times when Cotto was just rying to survive, and there were times where he was successfully boxing against Pacquiao, slipping his punches while catching Pacquiao clean. The point being that when faced against an opponent who is able to box, Pacquiao can be made to look wild and inaccurate. What is your point, that what I just said is false?

Pacquiao was very accurate against Cotto, more so when Cotto decided to throw.

Look at rounds 1-4, Cotto still with victory in his mind, look how Pacquiao could land 4 punch combos on him.

[thatnickuh]

There were times when Cotto was just rying to survive, and there were times where he was successfully boxing against Pacquiao, slipping his punches while catching Pacquiao clean. The point being that when faced against an opponent who is able to box, Pacquiao can be made to look wild and inaccurate. What is your point, that what I just said is false?

Try again please.

[TintaBoricua]

If you count the knockdown when Zab put floyd on his ass and the 12 round which Zab DOMINATED , than Zab wins that fight. Floyd got a gift decision and he knows it. He also got a gift decision against butt plug de la hoya

No, he doesn't. You're probably basing that on a Zab highlight video or something. You probably have never even sat down to watch the fight and score it round-by round. Zab was NOT leading going into the sixth. Zab had some moments early in the fight (perhaps the first four rounds), and even then he didn't necessarily win them all. Mayweather shut him down during the next half of the fight. Zab did his trademark mental collapse.

[F l i c k e r]

Zab has a jab.


Floyd had problems for 4 rounds. Then cruised to a W.


So sure. Pacquiao will give problems for 4 rounds. Then get turned to the right and picked off.

[Elotero]

Either both of you guys are overrating what Judah is capable of doing or underrating what Pac is capable of doing or both.

I think it's the former though...I would never understand the respect Judah gets by the fan...I don't see it, I just can't understand it.

Likewise with Pac. I dont see how anyone can see that much skill in him. He has the worst balance in the history of the sport. Ive never seen a fighter off his feet so much. Look at all the gifs here of Manny, all of them have him throwing punches on 1 foot and getting punched and standing on one foot. Technically, thats ****** and I could never see Zab doing something so dumb.

[Latim]

Zab and Mayweather knew each other for years. They have sparred many times. If any boxer would know Mayweathers tendencies and weaknesses it would be Zab. Also, you're forgetting that Zab was a freak athlete and back then he was actually quicker than May, beating him to the punch. This added with the fact that he had a jab, and fought like your stereotypical southpaw made him a big problem for Floyd. That being said, Manny isn't that typical type of southpaw that keeps that jab going while stepping to his right and he's also much more squared up than Zab.