Floyd is a better offensive fighter than Manny! Pac-JMM & PBF-JMM fights prove it.

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  • ballgamessuck
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    #131
    Originally posted by Mr.0pal
    He has better timing, balance, punch selection, and accuracy than Manny. He also creates shots off his defense. Yes, he is a better offensive fighter. Also consider the Mosley fights where Floyd landed more cleaner shots. He knows how to find a way to connect.
    As for the Mosley fight, Mosley rocked Floyd in round two, this gave him the confidence to stand and trade with Floyd for the entire fight, leading to many scoring opportunities for Floyd. When Mosley fought Paq, Paq put him down early, and after that Mosley avoided contact and practically ran, thereby giving Paq far less scoring opportunities than he had given Floyd.

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      #132
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
      Because styles make fights, that's why Manny hasn't figured him out. But if you are thinking that because Manny struggles with Marquez he would get killed by Floyd you're mistaken. Marquez/Floyd while both counter punchers, one simply throws more and that would be Marquez. Floyd pot shots 1/2 punches at most and after each shot shells up. Marquez steps back and throws 3-4 punch combinations and usually lands the 3rd of 4th punch. Floyd simply is going to throw 3 or 4. I'm getting off topic, the fact is that Floyd beat JMM far more convincingly ok? Pac still never lost a fight to him so who cares?

      Floyd beat Castillo, though as many people think he lost that fight as think Manny lost to JMM this last fight. It doesn't mean ****, you say DLH had to come down to 147, well... Manny didn't ask for the catchweight Oscar is the one who put it out there so stop using that as an excuse. He still got beat more convincingly, period. I love the ***** logic that "Floyd already beat Hatton..." Well Manny already beat JMM and I would say that Pac beat Hatton A LOT better than Floyd beat him, same with Oscar. So far against similar opponents Manny has come out looking a lot better. I would compare the other top WW's that they have fought but the only WW's that Floyd has fought were Ortiz and Shane.
      1 punch at a time?
      Despite throwing 41 punches per round – nearly 30 percent fewer than the welterweight average of 58.8 – and unleashing 90 fewer blows, Mayweather rolled up advantages of 290-69 in total connects, 185-21 in landed jabs and 105-48 in power connects.

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        #133
        Originally posted by BoZz
        it's a fact..if it wasn't true you would of have a reasonable answer for pacs cherry picking on top rank damaged goods.
        Top Rank's damaged GOODS is better than Golden Boy's never will be. (Ortiz.)

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          #134
          Originally posted by Cash Cow
          ok who fought the better version?
          Both fought an over the hill De La Hoya but before you go contradicting yourself by saying "Oh Oscar hadn't fought at welterweight in 10 years" remember Juan Manuel Marquez had never fought at welterweight ever in his career and if you are going to use the weight argument remember you are the one who is making himself look like a hypocrite.

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            #135
            Originally posted by Cash Cow
            1 punch at a time?
            Despite throwing 41 punches per round – nearly 30 percent fewer than the welterweight average of 58.8 – and unleashing 90 fewer blows, Mayweather rolled up advantages of 290-69 in total connects, 185-21 in landed jabs and 105-48 in power connects.

            Manny knocked him down 3 times in one round...

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              #136
              Originally posted by bose
              Floyd never even tried to make weight against Marquez.
              let's have a cry about it shall we

              floyd toyed with him...JMM knew that the weight had nothing to do with his loss..he didn't complain after the fight he's not a b1tch like duckqiao..

              oh noooo leg cramps...oh no I had a fight with my wife ...that cheater has always an excuse when he gets whooped just like when he wore the wrong shoe size...

              JMM = WARRIOR (who lost to floyd)

              DUCKQIAO = LOSER (who cries when he loses)

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                #137
                Originally posted by Cash Cow
                how?..please explain....tell me how? how is he a better offensive fighter than Mayweather?
                pac KO hatton round 2 vs money's KO 9

                Pac knock down mosely once vs floyds 0 knock down's and he got hurt

                Pac 1st fight vs JMM 3 knockdowns vs Floyds 1

                Pac tko oscar vs floyds SPLIT DEC

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  Manny knocked him down 3 times in one round...
                  and he fought JMM in that fight where JMM was a CHAMP

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by ballgamessuck
                    As for the Mosley fight, Mosley rocked Floyd in round two, this gave him the confidence to stand and trade with Floyd for the entire fight, leading to many scoring opportunities for Floyd. When Mosley fought Paq, Paq put him down early, and after that Mosley avoided contact and practically ran, thereby giving Paq far less scoring opportunities than he had given Floyd.
                    Naw Man Mosley was done...

                    Shane Mosley, who showed his age and the wear and tear of 53 professional bouts and 376 live rounds against the listless Sergio Mora on Saturday, did not help his standing in the Manny Pacquiao sweepstakes.

                    That's the word from Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum, who was busy with religious observance on Yom Kippur and did not view the bout live.
                    Asked on Sunday if he'd read the less-than-glowing reports of the controversial draw, Arum gave little reason to expect a Mosley-Pacquiao showdown.

                    "I did and I read them saying Mosley was huffing and puffing for air in the fourth or fifth round," Arum said. "To me, that is the real tipoff for an aging fighter. Even Big George Foreman did that in his 40s but he always had that big, big punch like in the (Michael) Moorer fight."

                    "What I've read is not very supportive to make any Mosley-Pacquiao bout. Look, he's going to be 40 and he's in the lighter weights where speed is so important. He's on a show with guys
                    old enough to be his son."


                    "I guess Shane needs the money due to his matrimonial sitaution (a divorce under harsh California community property rules)," Arum said. "I've always considered Shane to be a nice guy but this is what happens to fighters when they age.

                    "It's like (Bernard) Hopkins, he still knows how to fight but who wants to pay to see him now? His fights are not very scintillating. What you see with Hopkins we're beginning to see with Mosley."
                    Arum said he wouldn't be interested in playing the flakcatcher if he made a Shane-Manny bout at this point.

                    "I have to constantly be aware of this, the flak from the naysayers. We've faced with (Antonio) Margarito for Nov. 13 and we got real, instant flak. But now even the naysayers are looking at that just as a fight. Now the pendulum is swinging the other way and they're saying maybe Antonio is too strong or too big for Manny."


                    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1e0RcgBAk

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                      #140
                      Jose Luis Castillo

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