re re watched mayweather vs ortiz

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  • Carpe Diem
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    #91
    Originally posted by | THE KING |
    Nope.. it's that nobody is invincible/untouchable. The true greats were not undefeated.. they dared to be GREAT. Floyd is Great.. but not untouchable.
    I never said he is untouchable, you and your buddy are the ones that are implying that. All i am saying is Floyd is hittable and has been hit throughout his entire amateur and professional career, but hasn't gotten hit at a high consistent level for a whole fight since the Jose Luis Castillo and Jesus Chavez fights. Getting hit by 10 punches per round is inconsistent. Getting hit by 20 punches per round is consistent.
    Last edited by Carpe Diem; 11-09-2011, 10:31 PM.

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    • SyrianUser
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      #92
      Nobody wanted to see a rematch because Mayweather was dominating the fight anyway , the ******* hate is unmatched .

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      • Johnwoo8686
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        #93
        Ortiz was outlanded in every single round and his face was busted up after four rounds. So how exactly was the fight competitive? Yes he landed some good shots but Mayweather landed two to three for every one punch Ortiz would land. lol perception truly is reality for people.

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        • JoeyNumbers
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          #94
          I agree with OP. The fight was close.

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          • i_am_a_champ
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            #95
            Originally posted by tikay00
            I watched the may ortiz fight for the second time. Although maywaether was landing the right leads, that didnt deter ortiz from pressing forward. As soon as it got to the ropes, mayweather didnt have the same coordination with his hands to block all those lead lefts as well. The main problem with ortiz was that he couldnt fight going backward, but with pacquiao thats a non issue, because if mayweather tries to walk manny down, its good night for mayweather. To the people that say mayweather was DOMINATING the fight, NO WAY! It was competetive the whole fight. To this day i want to groin shot ortiz for throwing that head butt, i dont what he was thinking. All i know is after watching that fight, mayweather has definitley lost a step and pacman will beat him.
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            • tikay00
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              #96
              Originally posted by kev183
              If Mayweather tries to walk down Pacquiao, he will be successful, because although Pacquiao is very fast and powerful, Pacquiao is not big and tall like Victor Ortiz, which does come in handy. Pacquiao might be better than Ortiz, but he's very small and can be backed down by some one as smart as Floyd. A brute, come forward fighter like Margarito, backed Manny up in to the ropes. Mayweather is smarter than Margarito and can definitely find a way to back Pacquiao up while still keeping his defense intact. Ortiz is stronger, bigger, and taller than Pacquiao. To compare how Floyd would do against Pac, it's much closer to look at the Mitchell, Corley and Judah fights, not the Ortiz fight. Ortiz is too big to take him as an example of how Floyd will look agaist Pacquiao, who's 20lbs lighter, and 3 inches shorter than Ortiz, Pacquiao also has a shorter reach. Take all of this in to account.
              But by saying this, your implying that floyd can walk down pacquiao. Walking someone down means your slowly following them to the ropes or the corner, and thinking of your next attack. Ortiz's reach had nothing to do with being effective against floyd, it was his speed and timing. He shot a quick left to the body and quick left hands to his head. By walking pac man down, your playing into his game. Cotto walked manny down as well, and he got hit with combos. That's when cotto stopped walking him down and started running for his life. The reason why this fight is gonna be the hardest test of floyd's life is because he wont have the same time to think about his approach like with his other opponents. He's gonna have to think defense first with manny. If he thinks offense first, he's 100% without a doubt going to get caught, and then KO'd.

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              • LoadedWraps
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                #97
                LOL @ this thread.
                Ortiz never had a chance, PEDiao will lose, the sky is blue, and the earth is round.

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                • tikay00
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                  #98
                  In a traditional sense, if you took 2 fighters with their skill sets and matched them up, you'd have to give the edge to the mayweather type fighter, but manny is not the "traditional" type of fighter. He doesnt gas out (mainly because he doesnt even cut weight.) He has a rock solid chin, and when you hit him, he comes for more, until he gets off on you. He has ko power in both hands. He's one of the fastest in boxing. He can use angles on you, and he can get in and out with the quickness. Manny is floyd's kryptonite, plain and simple.

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                  • Bear06
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                    LOL @ this thread.
                    Ortiz never had a chance, PEDiao will lose, the sky is blue, and the earth is round.
                    lmao another ***** and his fans keep collecting welfare checks.

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                    • Johnwoo8686
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                      #100
                      To anybody who says this fight was competitive I beg to differ. Just watch these videos where somebody count each punch landed for each fighter.



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