Has paquiao really gotten that much better???

[gatorDelux]

Your hate towards Pacquiao blinded your eyes. Watch the Oscar fight and see how he boxed gracefully, counterpunched beautifully and displayed the in and out movements in full effect. Watch his fight against Cotto when he timed Cotto's fearsome jabs. Against Margarito he showed and executed effortlessly the agressive counterpunching abilities. If you can't those improvements....smh

what the **** are you talking about???

pac is a fighter that i like!

and u r blind if u dont think oscar was shot



this thread isreasonable and logical

pac has the style and tools to outbox bigger guys

[ßringer]

It's not hard to "box beautifully" against a weight drained corpse of De La Hoya when you're fighting him at a weight he hasn't made in many years.

The Cotto fight is a much better example for your argument, though I disagree. That said, I think the Cotto fight is Pacquiao's best win since the Marquez rematch "win".

And Margarito? C'mon. That guy is a joke.

[Ringlife]

Yes he's much better he's got a right hand now so watch out for that right hook I do see him getting tired and the end of his fights but the boy swings hard all fight.

[bojangles1987]

yes but i was talking about the second one

he is just a littlemore experienced and if marquez wasnt so old i would give him a very good chance

I do think he's better. Pacquiao was about done making his transition to being more of a boxer puncher by the time the second Marquez fight happened, so all the time since he has just been able to grow comfortable in that style.

Again, not completely different, but definitely better.

[Nonitard]

his foot work improved SLIGHTLY, but a guy who is fleet of foot doesnt need perfect footwork, he can get away with mistakes.

that is why Pac is a great fighter, he just uses his natural physical ability to gloss over poor technique

[gatorDelux]

Hmm what do you mean??

.. I agree that Marquez is like Manny kryptonite. It will be a ****ing war bro. But know that Pacquiao is on some god level now. Just have that clear man.

But yeah like I agree, Marquez is going to give Pacquiao everything he got and hell. It will be an exciting fight and another classic.

ijust think he alway had the style tools and gifts to beat bigger fighters and the guys he struggled with are smaller guys that handle his speed

this isnt a pac hate thread

i just think, after spending the weekend rewatching hisfights, that he hasnt drasticly evolved like people think he has

if ur fighting guys that cant see ur punches or deel with ur footspeed ur gonna look really damn good( which pac is) and its gonna be easier and smarter to couterpunch

[BABYBOXER]

Pacfans believe the myth that he is a completely different fighter now, than he was then. When pressed on this issue, they often resort to the addition of the right hand as proof of his "evolution".

When anybody who's truly watched his career closely knows his right hand was there as early as the first Morales fight.

He's the same fighter he was then. Only bigger, and with more confidence and experience to draw upon.

'am just confused here, gaining confidence and experience would'nt make you better?

perhaps, you are referring to skills, right? i respect your opinion, but somehow, i disagree...

[gatorDelux]

like some of the posters above stated

your gonna look more skilled against bigger guys that cant handle ur speed

he has improved but not completly evolved like some people think

[Bombs]

ijust think he alway had the style tools and gifts to beat bigger fighters and the guys he struggled with are smaller guys that handle his speed

this isnt a pac hate thread

i just think, after spending the weekend rewatching hisfights, that he hasnt drasticly evolved like people think he has

if ur fighting guys that cant see ur punches or deel with ur footspeed ur gonna look really damn good( which pac is) and its gonna be easier and smarter to couterpunch

I agree with you.. Marquez to me is one of the most skilled fighters of all time. Like top 10 if not top 5. He is a very tricky fighter and intelligent with a great skillet.

Good post.

I see your point but he has evolved into a monster that cannot be stopped bro.


AND FELLOW PAC FANS.. gnhs is cool. He is a cool guy. He is not a hater. He cool. Sometimes he says some things that make you want to jab him softly lol but I know him and he isnt a hater of the goat

[boxer.exposed]

This time, Pac has plenty of options how to fight Marquez. He can choice the style of fighting just like the first fight or second fight but this when Marquez is down, he will not getting up. Pac can also fight the style like the Oscar fight and makes Marquez go after him just like Floyd tactics or combined all the skills, tactics, improvements and experiences he learned since their last fight. Either way Pac should still win but will not be so easy as some other may think.