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Conte has a good point but really is reaching for some attention at this point. The whole weight issue is really old now. Both came from 106, one as a pro the other as an am. Who cares. Weight gain in several months? Try again, this is boxing. Boxers cut weight. Since at least 11/2006, Pacquiao has weighed anywhere between 142-148 unofficially on fight night. That's almost 5 years of him having to shed a **** ton to fight so low. Pacquiao is slower than before as others suggest. Those in his division are just a bit slower. And for those who think Floyd is as fast as manny if not faster...I mean how is that possible. That would mean a 130lb Floyd was exponentially faster than a 130lb PAcquiao to be as fast as he is now at a welter. For all that is holy, no one even knows what stage negotiations have ever got to besides what Arum and Ellerbe say. Let's just all calm down and pray that they fight because all the accusations are a waste of breath.
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Originally posted by TheMexHurricane View Post1) Negative. Duran looked soft when he moved up to jr middle-- ***19 lbs*** out of his original weight.
2) The other 3 began there careers 50% bigger than Pac began his career so the weight gain wouldn't be near the same %.
3) Can you provide pics of Robinson in a fight @ 30+ lbs from his original weight?
should be ray robinson 30lb's
tommy hearns gained 43lb's
duran looked in pretty good shape vs benitez
he looked like pac does on fight night(despite pac weighing around 147)
not gonna bother with charles
robinson in the amatuers fought(around 18 years of age) @126(featherweight)
robinson @163 lbs(age 32 around, i can't be bothered boxrec'ing again)
musta looked pretty good on the weigh in
considering robinsons height and never really looking that rippedLast edited by SplitSecond; 09-28-2011, 05:28 PM.
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That make sense. No wonder why floyd took 2 yrs off in his first retirement when we wanted him to fight cotto,maragrito etc...he needed his time to be juiced up. And accuses of pacquiao of steroids to deflect the attention to him. no one will ever question floyd that way. Perfect smokescreen..
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostSTOPPIT KID !!
From March 2008, to December 2008 - immediately after hooking up with Alex Ariza - Pacquiao put on 13lbs of muscle while moving through 3 divisions in just under 9 months
If you knew the slightest thing about boxing, you would know that is unheard of.
As were Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid the random blood tests.
http://www.fightfan.com/2011/09/enha...-welterweight/
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostExactly, and yet after hooking up with Ariza, Pacquiao.....
1.) gained 13lbs of muscle in 9 months while ripping through 3 divisions, all the while increasing his speed and power
2.) made the second highest recorded weight gain in history, second only to a guy who finished at heavyweight and used steroids to get there, and he only exceeded 5'6" Pacquiao's weight gain by 1lb
3.) Refused random blood tests, citing 8 different ridiculous excuses
Where there is smoke, there is fire.
point1 + point2 + point3 = seriously, how fkn gullible can you be ?
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Originally posted by MRBOOMER View PostSo he never fought as low as 106 I swear I read that some where well looks like ima a$$ hole then Lol
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Originally posted by SoggyLungsroberto duran apparently went from 134 to 151 in 8 months; that's 17lbs.
But I guess you wouldnt be aware of that, would ya ?
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Originally posted by SoggyLungsthats 15lbs you said 17lbs earlier. pac weighed 129 against marquez and more than a year later he weighed 144 against cotto. pac's last fight before cotto was against hatton and he weighed 138. so from 138 to 144 is 6 pounds. he fought hatton in may of 09 and fought cotto in november of 09. so pac gained 6 pounds in 7 months. also pac weighed 142 when he fought DLH not the full 147.
From March 2008, to December 2008 - immediately after hooking up with Alex Ariza - Pacquiao put on 13lbs of muscle while moving through 3 divisions in just under 9 months
If you knew the slightest thing about boxing, you would know that is unheard of.
As were Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid the random blood tests.
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Originally posted by SoggyLungsfrom 2007 (his second fight with barrera) to 2011 (his last fight with mosley) pac only really went up 15 or 16 lbs.
UNHEARD OF !!
Except for Roy Jones Jnr who only exceeded Manny's recorded weight gain by 1lb, but he ended up at heavyweight and used steroids to get there.
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Originally posted by AFighter4U View Postassuming both Pac and floyd are juicing, it simply means floyd is willing to subject himself to tests he already knows he can easily beat since he'd be juicing BEFORE the testing period of two months that he demanded. (as conte alleges)
that makes floyd no better than Pac (assuming they're BOTH juicing) and you dumb enough to fall for that simple cheap parlor trick.
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