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  • LeadUppercut
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    Originally posted by rntolent View Post
    Your logic makes sense, but numbers don't lie. In Pacs last 10-12 fights starting with Ledwaba (130 lb title fight), he has weighed between 142-148. His weight hasn't gone up. Does he have a sturdy beard? Sure! Logic also shows that heavier weight (less draining) gives you a little bit more endurance. Has he fought at catch weights? Sure...but some of those were because his trainer feared he could overstep his limit. I agree that Pac not taking the first test was bad for the situation but you have to remember how it all came about. From a baseless accusation. At the end of the day, discrediting his body of work or Floyd's is wrong. They are great polar extremes of boxing and its great to have the choice. I hope they fight. Happy posting!
    The bottom line is, refusing random blood tests is completely unjustifiable, and Mannys 8 ridiculous excuses were absurd.

    During the Marquez fight Pacquiao looked (according to the commentators) "faded", like he had been in "too many wars"..... but a few months later during the Diaz fight..... "revitalised", like a new fighter"..... "unbelievable"..... and Manny Steward said he had never seen anyone go up in weight and look so ripped without losing their speed..... well, he has jumped another 3 divisions since then

    We just want to know how the "new" and "improved" Pac did it?

    FACT: Blood tests are completely harmless.

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  • AFighter4U
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    Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
    floyd started at 130 check it out.
    Floyd started at 130 as a professional but 106 as an amateur.

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  • rntolent
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    Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
    thats the rub for most fans that think pac is using peds. if you look at the history of boxing, when a fighter moves up in wt his ko% drops off. pacs has not. when a boxer goes up in wt his speed also drops. pac walking through cotto shots(cottos left hook is quit formidable) gave a lot of people pause. there is reason to suspect ped usage. and ducking the test are reason to be su****ious. and someone posted pac gets random test. thats not true. he wanted to know when they would administer the drug test. to me thats suspect. thats just my opinion i welcome any opposing view. i would love a logical debate. not just fan love.
    Your logic makes sense, but numbers don't lie. In Pacs last 10-12 fights starting with Ledwaba (130 lb title fight), he has weighed between 142-148. His weight hasn't gone up. Does he have a sturdy beard? Sure! Logic also shows that heavier weight (less draining) gives you a little bit more endurance. Has he fought at catch weights? Sure...but some of those were because his trainer feared he could overstep his limit. I agree that Pac not taking the first test was bad for the situation but you have to remember how it all came about. From a baseless accusation. At the end of the day, discrediting his body of work or Floyd's is wrong. They are great polar extremes of boxing and its great to have the choice. I hope they fight. Happy posting!

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  • myCoCainE
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  • LeadUppercut
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    Originally posted by BoZz View Post
    floyd took the test pac didn't so............
    EXACTLY !!

    Aside from beating his third consecutive opponent that Pacquiao had already ducked, Mayweather will take the test.

    There is simply no comparison between the two.

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  • LeadUppercut
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    Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
    thats the rub for most fans that think pac is using peds. if you look at the history of boxing, when a fighter moves up in wt his ko% drops off. pacs has not. when a boxer goes up in wt his speed also drops. pac walking through cotto shots(cottos left hook is quit formidable) gave a lot of people pause. there is reason to suspect ped usage. and ducking the test are reason to be su****ious. and someone posted pac gets random test. thats not true. he wanted to know when they would administer the drug test. to me thats suspect. thats just my opinion i welcome any opposing view. i would love a logical debate. not just fan love.
    GREAT POST !!

    It is absurd to hear Manny's fanboys falling over themselves making whiney excuses to save pacroid from having to take a completely harmless blood test

    FACT: If Pac would undertake a completely harmless blood test half of you "boxing fans" would be out of a job

    What would you do ?

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  • BoZz
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    oh yea i forgot..USADA no good...he doesn't trust Americans

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  • LeadUppercut
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    Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
    ray robinson(in his very peak)
    went from 147 to 153 in one month
    add another month, if he wanted you think he could've gained an extra 6? maybe a little slower but im certain he could
    now fill'em up with the protien shakes they have nowadays, golden

    rocky marciano another, gained 7 lb's of muscle in one month, some protien shakes and 9 months, golden

    muhammad ali also gained 6lbs in one month

    but here you are, trippin, because manny pacquiao put on 5lb's in 3 months, then 8lb's in 6 months?

    roy jones put on 19lb's in 6 months, nothing to compare
    Dude..... weight gain DOES NOT = muscle.

    Pacquiao was MORE ripped at welter than he was at 130, and just as fast.

    Anyone can put on weight man, we are talking muscle.

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  • BoZz
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    floyd took the test pac didn't so............

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  • LeadUppercut
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    Originally posted by SoggyLungs
    pac is always in terrific shape way before ariza. and he hasn't gotten faster. if anything he has been successful at maintaining his speed while moving up in weight. also duran wasn't fat and slow at welterweight lol. watch his fight against carlos palomino and his first fight against leonard. he wasn't as fast as he was as a lightweight but he wasn't a very slow welterweight either.
    That user stated that Duran gained over 40 lbs.

    BULL**** !!

    Duran did not gain over 40lbs to fight at welter.

    And he DID look fat and slow at MW.

    And like you pointed out, Duran (naturally) lost speed as he moved up, Manny has not.

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