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  • mushahadeen
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    CONTE, FLOYD, PAC-- the only person out of those three known, proven, and admitted to being associated with steroids is Victor Conte.

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  • Fetta
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    Originally posted by SoggyLungs
    pac weighed 142lbs when he fought DLH not the full 147. so from 129 to 142 = 13lbs not 17. also before fighting DLH pac fought david diaz. pac weighed 134 1/2 against diaz. so from 134 1/2 to 142 = 7 1/2 lbs.
    Splitting hairs man. He moved from lightweight to welterweight in a matter of 9 months. We agree on that? ok but fine we will do it your way. 13 lbs in 9 months for a boxer is huge but youll still say it aint. 2 weight classes in 9 months is huge but youll say it aint.

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  • Seleção No. 13
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    lmaooooooooooooooo

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  • Fetta
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    Originally posted by SoggyLungs
    thats 15lbs you said 17lbs earlier. pac weighed 129 against marquez and more than a year later he weighed 144 against cotto. pac's last fight before coto was against hatton and he weighed 138. so from 138 to 144 is 6 pounds. he fought hatton in may of 09 and fought cotto in november of 09. so pac gained 6 pounds in 7 months.
    After he fought DLH at 147 in 2008 as well. Thats 17 lbs in 8 or 9 months and he fought DLH at 147 cause he weighed more than him on fight night. then he fought Hatton and then Cotto

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  • GRUSTLER
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    Originally posted by Imhotep View Post
    Pac looked faster then ever in the Hatton and Cotto fight.I`ve been watching the roid user ever since Bantamweight or lower.And i seen fights on youtube that are even older then that.
    Here's the thing. Manny Pacquiao VS Oscar De La Hoya looked like the Manny Pacquiao I've been watching all these years. He used speed and bounced in and out to not get hit by the bigger Oscar (eventhough Oscar was a walking Corspe) but Manny used his speed as a weapon and never tried to engage, let Oscar get him on the ropes or take a hit. After that fight, (specifically Cotto) Pac was walking Miguel down and letting him hit on him. I remember JMM was pushing Pac's head back with counters busting him up.

    Pac knocked JMM down a total of 4 times in 2 fights and still fought 2 tough fights BUT now Pac is hitting bigger guys, breaking and busting their faces up? Lil ass Pac broke Margarito's eye socket? The same Margarito that took bombs from Cintron 2x (who is known for being a big puncher), Miguel Cotto at 147 and Mosley for 9 rounds. The same Pac that couldn't get JMM out there. I don't know if he is juicing or not but looking at it from an analytical stand point. Floyd lost some speed, activity and pop while Pac has gained everything while being a lil dude and moving up at the same time.

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  • Fetta
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    Originally posted by SoggyLungs
    from 2007 (his second fight with barrera) to 2011 (his last fight with mosley) pac only really went up 15lbs.
    2008 he fought Marquez at 130 and in 2009 he fought Cotto at 145 after he fought DLH at 147

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  • GRUSTLER
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    Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
    assuming both Pac and floyd are juicing, it simply means floyd is willing to subject himself to tests he already knows he can easily beat since he'd be juicing BEFORE the testing period of two months that he demanded. (as conte alleges)

    that makes floyd no better than Pac (assuming they're BOTH juicing) and you dumb enough to fall for that simple cheap parlor trick.
    Hmmmmm....... Ok, so the guy who is possibly juicing is prepared to subject himself to random blood testing but the other guy who is possibly juicing won't? OK, so if I am going to use my brain then I would think that the guy who is willing to do the test is not worried about it is clean, and the one who is worried about taking it isn't? Does that make sense to you if we were to unbiasly speculate? BECAUSE IF Floyd can get away with it by doing it yearly then why not Pac? I think YOU ARE the dumb one for supporting a guy who won't take a random blood tests or has excuses because at the end of the day NO athlete who is clean OR is smart enough to not get caught would refuse one. So either Pac is dirty or he is just ****** that he cannot juice and get away with it like Mayweather.

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  • Imhotep
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    Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
    like i said. that comes with age bro. plus the fact that floyd fights less than twice a year on average, that definitely adds to ring rust.

    another way of saying it is that Pac isn't faster, but his opponents just happen to be slower.

    you may have been watching floyd, but you OBVIOUSLY haven't watched Pac.

    he is in no way faster than he was in the lower weights. like i said before, he's actually slower now, but because his opponents in the higher weight class aren't as fast as his lower weight opponents, it only makes Pac LOOK faster.

    in other words, Pac may be slower now than he was before, but he's still WAAAAY faster than his current opponents at the higher weight classes.



    Pac looked faster then ever in the Hatton and Cotto fight.I`ve been watching the roid user ever since Bantamweight or lower.And i seen fights on youtube that are even older then that.

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  • GRUSTLER
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    I don't get as a boxing fan how people can say that Pac's legacy is greater than Floyd's, when Floyd has dominated the sport of boxing for his whole professional career undefeated and Pac fought the same guys he did after the fact? Floyd won a title at 154 which Pac never did and Manny still hasn't become the lineal champion at 147? Floyd actually became the number 1 guy twice. Once with Baldomir and then securing the top spot at WW again after he beat Shane Mosley, which would have made him the WBA champion but he didn't pay the sactioning fees. Manny has yet to beat any top fighter at 147. At 130/135 Floyd had a better run then Manny. I'll give Pac beating Hatton at 140 for the Lineal title but Floyd fought more there as well. I know people don't like Floyd personally but to say Pac has a better legacy than Floyd considering Pac has 2 catchweight titles with one being vacant and Mayweather has none is crazy.

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  • AFighter4U
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    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    OK people anything is possible and maybe Floyd and Pac are both juicing but that doesn't take away from the fact that eventhough Floyd can be juicing on his long breaks that he is still willing to subject himself to testing and Pac isn't. If it doesn't matter anyway and you can beat it according to Conte, then why didn't and won't Pac take it without knowing when it was being administered? And why so many excuses? I mean, I am not even trying to get on that vibe because it is ridiculous to continue to go down this road if the fight is not agreed upon and signed. Obviously if Floyd was/is willing to subject himself to random testing then why didn't Pac? If neither can get caught then what was the big deal?
    assuming both Pac and floyd are juicing, it simply means floyd is willing to subject himself to tests he already knows he can easily beat since he'd be juicing BEFORE the testing period of two months that he demanded. (as conte alleges)

    that makes floyd no better than Pac (assuming they're BOTH juicing) and you dumb enough to fall for that simple cheap parlor trick.

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