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  • #41
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    Did you watch the fight, Marquez put on a show, some of the best combination punching I had ever seen.

    Fought Katsidis's fight, fought on the inside and dominated Kats.
    He fought Katsidis' fight because his legs don't allow him to do anything else. I don't think tasting canvas was part of the strategy. Katsidis isn't that good for a fighter like Marquez to get hit as many times as he did. He's slowed considerably.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Hisoka_ View Post
      Look at Cotto's fighting stance, he arcs forward, minimizing his height and making it much easier for his opponents to reach him. Now try doing that against a fighter who keeps his back straight, Wladimir, Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins etc etc. Funny thing is, I never degraded Manny's timing, head movement and all that other stuff you mentioned, all I'm saying is...Manny's success in countering the jab mostly came from Cotto's stance.
      i dunno if ur right about that arc form moving forward
      because everyfighter that moves forward to be the aggressor will have an arc stance to cover their body from body shots ://

      fighters who fight with their back straight is the one who fights back foot to keep their face aways from jabs

      i cant seem to find a fighter who moves forward without that arc form if u do post a vid of a fighter moving forward exposing his body for body shots with his back straight

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      • #43
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        He fought Katsidis' fight because his legs don't allow him to do anything else. I don't think tasting canvas was part of the strategy. Katsidis isn't that good for a fighter like Marquez to get hit as many times as he did. He's slowed considerably.
        And when was Marquez a mover?

        Do you even know who Juan Manual Marquez is?

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        • #44
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          And when was Marquez a mover?

          Do you even know who Juan Manual Marquez is?
          Wow...you should be ashamed of yourself.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            Marquez took a shellacking against Katsidis. He's slowing down. If Manny hits him half as much, he's going to bed.
            Marquez will get hit and at some point will hit the canvass.

            If a miracle occurs and he manages to see a Descision he will struggle to win on points considering he will without question hit the canvass atleast once and most likely multiple times.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              Marquez will get hit and at some point will hit the canvass.

              If a miracle occurs and he manages to see a Descision he will struggle to win on points considering he will without question hit the canvass atleast once and most likely multiple times.
              Six rounds, tops. Can't see him lasting longer. If he does, kudos to him but he's losing 12-0.

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              • #47


                JMM at the top of his game, I don't think I have seen a better attacking display from Marquez.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  And when was Marquez a mover?

                  Do you even know who Juan Manual Marquez is?
                  Obviously you don't know who JMM is.

                  I use to watch him as a kid back in the forum days in L.A.

                  In his prime, he was very defensive minded and very technically skilled. That's why he didn't get in a lot of wars. Hence why he was the least popular if the 3 Mexican Musketeers.

                  Once he started losing a step. He became more offensive minded and started opening up more. Which in return he got into wars. Which made his popularity grow.

                  He has lost a step tremendously now. LOL @ you thinking JMM was a top of his game against Katsidis. He's way past prime and him going up in weight again will hurt him even more.

                  This fight is crap.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Obviously you don't know who JMM is.

                    I use to watch him as a kid back in the forum days in L.A.

                    In his prime, he was very defensive minded and very technically skilled. That's why he didn't get in a lot of wars. Hence why he was the least popular if the 3 Mexican Musketeers.

                    Once he started losing a step. He became more offensive minded and started opening up more. Which in return he got into wars. Which made his popularity grow.

                    He has lost a step tremendously now. LOL @ you thinking JMM was a top of his game against Katsidis. He's way past prime and him going up in weight again will hurt him even more.

                    This fight is crap.
                    I asked when he was a mover, not about defense or offense.

                    Yeah Marquez just takes apart Katsidis with great combination punching and he is way past his prime.

                    At what time in the past do you think Marquez would have done a better job on Katsidis?

                    As for going up in weight, he was 145lbs in the ring against Kats, he will be around that when he faces Pacquiao.

                    It going to be a great fight.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by BoZz View Post
                      Are there still idiots out there who actually believe what arum,roach,ariza and pacquiao have to say?
                      Don't forget about Michael Koncz

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