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  • #21
    Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
    Show me where Manny does all this to NON CW opponents ? oh you cant hmmmm figured that , and you know why he could to them and not the others , you said it was Mannys speed and timing , wrong kid , it was because when your boiled down you begin to push punches and loose snap , Manny wasnt fast they were slow .

    Floyd will school him so bad you wont believe your eyes .
    You've been saying this the past three years bro, wake me up when Floyd himself actually believes this and fights Manny.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      Floyd will school him so bad you wont believe your eyes .
      Really? if Floyd grow some balls then maybe we'll get to see this schooling you're talking about. Looking at the first few minutes of Rd 4 in the Ortiz fight, i think he'll get pretty beaten by Manny. Your guy Floyd can't get a decent shot at Ortiz. A couple of time Ortiz got him by the ropes and Ortiz landed a couple of combo. i think Pacquiao kills him if Pacquiao get a chance like that.



      0:15 to 0:30, Floyd throwing some wild punches, and Ortiz wasn't really moving a lot.i think Floyd is going to have a hard time with Manny's head and lateral movement
      Last edited by FistO; 09-27-2011, 04:09 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by FistO View Post
        Really? if Floyd grow some balls then maybe we'll get to see this schooling you're talking about. Looking at the first few minutes of Rd 4 in the Ortiz fight, i think he'll get pretty beaten by Manny. Your guy Floyd can't get a decent shot at Ortiz. A couple of time Ortiz got him by the ropes and Ortiz landed a couple of combo. i think Pacquiao kills him if Pacquiao get a chance like that.



        0:15 to 0:30, Floyd throwing some wild punches, and Ortiz wasn't really moving a lot.i think Floyd is going to have a hard time with Manny's head and lateral movement
        Go have a close look at Pac vs Mosley , no CW just an old shot fighter with a little speed and boxing ability , Manny has avoided fast fighters his whole career , and the reason is very apparent , you whole deal is about big CW fights , without the CW he has big trouble with speed and boxing ability , and thats Floyds world , it wont be a problem Floyd is just too good .

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          Go have a close look at Pac vs Mosley , no CW just an old shot fighter with a little speed and boxing ability , Manny has avoided fast fighters his whole career , and the reason is very apparent , you whole deal is about big CW fights , without the CW he has big trouble with speed and boxing ability , and thats Floyds world , it wont be a problem Floyd is just too good .
          we'll call him and tell him we need him to beat manny's ass.until then we can only dream about this and that.but none of is going to matter because floyd's not fighting manny.why does floyd have to come up with all these excuses if he truly feels manny is an easy fight.it like saying "I'm not gonna fight you because I'll beat you easy". how do you know?

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          • #25
            If you really want to get technical then Oscar, Cotto and Margarito wasn't as technical and resourceful as JMM. Just look at the first two fights between Pac/JMM. The only thing Pac has over JMM at this point is probably the weight because he was fighting there longer than Marquez but if Juan can weather Manny, not get caught as much and adjust during the fight it is another hard fight for Pacquiao. Fighting slower guys at catchweights and opponents not fighting back hasn't helped Pac improve much when he never had to worry about them.

            Pac has always been wide open for jabs and counters but the thing that gives Manny his advantages is when fighters try to pressure and be overly aggressive. You can't go in there looking for a KO over Pac but rather have to box him, make him miss and pay. Pac can win but won't know how dominately until we see them in the ring because Pac beating the opponents he has did not impress me enough to think he will totally annihilate JMM unless he's paid off to look bad against Pac.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by FistO View Post
              we'll call him and tell him we need him to beat manny's ass.until then we can only dream about this and that.but none of is going to matter because floyd's not fighting manny.why does floyd have to come up with all these excuses if he truly feels manny is an easy fight.it like saying "I'm not gonna fight you because I'll beat you easy". how do you know?
              I wholeheartedly feel like WE ALL need to forget about Floyd/Pac happening until it happens.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                Show me where Manny does all this to NON CW opponents ? oh you cant hmmmm figured that , and you know why he could to them and not the others , you said it was Mannys speed and timing , wrong kid , it was because when your boiled down you begin to push punches and loose snap , Manny wasnt fast they were slow .

                Floyd will school him so bad you wont believe your eyes .
                So manny is not fast anymore? Didnt the ped accusation started because manny was to fast and to strong? lol.. I swear it changes everyday. When theres a new vid clip showcasting manny's speed he gets blame for using peds. When discussion future fights between manny and his future opponents all of a sudden manny didn't really improve much it's just that he's been pair with the right opponent?

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                • #28
                  roach has improved manny a lot over the years, pretty sure he will school jmm

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                  • #29
                    Are there still idiots out there who actually believe what arum,roach,ariza and pacquiao have to say?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
                      Misdirection by Roach, he knows damn well that Manny started countering jabs with DLH and mastered it by the time he fought Cotto:


                      There's one problem. Cotto was coming forward with the jabs with the intention of setting up shots. Marquez uses the jab for effective distance. Pacquiao is gonna have to lunge in with the straight left leaving himself wide up for the lead right. That's if of course Marquez uses the same step back tactic he used in the 2nd fight.

                      Marquez isn't Cotto, Margarito or DLH. He's not looking to come forward and trying to overpower Manny.

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