Was Barrera as great as jrosales13 says he is?

[IronDanHamza]

nowhere near as impressive as the other two. zara was clearly past it by that time. thats like ppl giving calzaghe a lot of credit for the eubank win.

Not really because Zaragoza was a Champion coming off good performances unlike Eubank who wasn't even in the Top 10.

[Trapped Bird]

Barrera and Morales were great action fighters. All-time boxers?

JMM is great though.

[QADASHBANYAH]

Pacquiao was a horrendous style matchup for Barrera.

Just off Morales, Barrera proved he's a great fighter. That's without even bringing up any of his other wins that prove so. Beating Morales two out of three proves his greatness all by itself.

And if anyone questions Morales's greatness as a way of questioning Barrera's greatness, well then that person just doesn't have a clue about either fighter.

I am questioning him being an all time great. All time greats don't get whooped by people like Zahir Rahim... Don't get heart confused with greatness. Morales skill set us far from ATG you can't deny that!!!! How else can a man fighting cans in Asia come whoop an all time great in Barrera and morales ???? Great isn't all time great. Come on man it's not hard, simply look at when he Barrera fought some of these people..... That's the truth. I don't see people running round here saying Trevor Berbick was ATG because he beat Ali!!!!! It seems people only call the truth in the heavyweight division. There people realize when fighters are past their prime..

Barrera had a 43 fight win streak , but who were those fighters???

Is junior jones an ATG????

In 1998 he won a vacant title. Didn't berto get PAC get one of those in his 154 fight? What does that mean???

In 1999 he was fighting mutha****as from his own team!!!! That's how he got that no contest!!!!! This is fact!

Morale beat Barrera in 2k and the WBO REINSTATED HIM AS CHAMPION LOL!!!!

He defended his ring title instead of going for the WBC title... He beat Johnny tapia and an old Kevin Kelly .. Do I lie???? In 2003!!!!

Have I lied once?? Go back and look.

He lost to pacquiao and Marquez.... PAC beat him x2!!!

I won't touch on khan he was done by then.....

[IronDanHamza]

As for Barrera;

Whilst I feel that his resume isn't as stacked as people tend to think, and is inferior to Erik Morales quite clearly (IMO) he is obviously a great fighter.

For starters, anyone who can beat a prime Morales clearly is a special fighters in general.

Added to the fact he is a 3 Division Titlest managing 16 title defence across those 3 weight classes.

With wins over good to great competition spanning from Kennedy Mckinney and Johnny Tapia to future HOF'ers like Naseem Hamed and ATG's like Erik Morales. You are a great fighter.

I do actually agree to an extent that he is a tad overrated in terms of his resume and greatness. His resume isn't that stacked and alot of his title defences weren't great epecially at 122.

For example I personally cannot see how he is greater than Morales. Just cannot see that.

[New England]

TS needs to actually watch the fights instead of just checking them out on boxrec



you can honestly watch his first and third morales fights and say that's not a great fighter?


sheeesh

[junior gong]

Calling Barrera great is a fool's opinion. and that fool is jrosales13.

I'm not calling jrosales13 a fool lightly or without cause.

Let's examine this.

Barrera padded his record with 35 fights before he stepped up to the world championship stage.

Then once he won the WBO BW championship, he got his asss handed to him twice by Junior Jones, who BTW never amounted to a hill of beans.

If that wasn't bad enough, Barrera licked his wounds and went on to compete for guess what? You got it ... a vacant title. He defended it against against an assortment of nobodies until Erik Morales took it from him.

This is what I've been saying all along: Erik Morales and Prince Naseem Hamed ARE Marco Antonio Barrera's career.

How did Barrera regain the WBO title? LOL .. Erik Morales vacated both the WBC and WBO titles he held after beating Barrera, so the WBO "reawarded" the WBO title to Barrera! How embarrassing!

Barrera then defended his bogus title against more nobodies until he got a chance to face the hype that was Prince Naseem Hamed.

Barrera shined in that fight. The fact that Barrera beat a fighter who had NEVER EVER proven anything against any world class fighters made Barrera a star. The biggest name on Hamed's resume was a aged Kevin Kelley.

Barrera then went on to avenge his loss to Morales. He fought and took pity on a drugged up version of Johnny Tapia who really had no business in the ring at that point in his life and then fought the same aged Kevin Kelley.

Barrera tried to step it up again and got wrecked in Pacquiao'a first big fight in America. Yet another loss when he ventures to the top.

Barrera went on to beat Paulie Ayala, whose biggest claim to fame was beating Johnny Tapia. Barrera fought Erik Morales. Again. As I said, Barrera's fights with Morales are what made him and what he's really remembered for. Barrera also beat Rocky Juarez, whose biggest win came over Zahir Raheem, but Raheem never amounted to anything except for a dominating performance against Morales.

After that, Barrera stepped up to face more world class competition.

Barrera tried to REALLY step up to the real talent.

First he fought a man that both he and Morales had been ducking for YEARS: Juan Manuel Marquez. They both avoided Marquez because he was twice the boxer that Barrera and Morales could hope to be. Suffice to say, Barrera got outclassed and showed why he had been avoiding that match-up for years.

Then, Barrera thought he could find redemption against Manny Pacquiao. The difference in ability was apparent and of course .. Barrera lost as he usually does at the highest level unless its against Morales.

So, in a last hurrah effort, Barrera decided to face a young lion in Amir Khan. A headbutt caused a cut on both fighters, but the truth from what boxing fans got to see was that Barrera was no match for Khan.

So .....

I'm calling you out jrosales13!

I'd like jrosales13 to show us why Marco Antonio Barrera is a so-called "great" fighter. In order to be great, you have to do great things. Barrera NEVER did great things.

The pentacle of Barrera's career were wins over Morales, and Morales himself was not great. Hamed? Juarez? Ayala? Tapia? You think THOSE wins made Barrera great?

No sir, you are the fcuking moron. You have no idea about boxing or what makes it or the fighters great. You're a hype whore, who buys into promotion and ranks fighters according to how much buzz their was about their fight.

I've read plenty of your posts, and you consistently show that you reason with your emotions which are based on your hype whore addiction. You did it with Barrera. You did it with Cotto.

You are beneath me as are your unfounded warped opinions.

Ponder that Pinky.

This is one of the most ignorant, anti boxing threads you could see, and its from the guy that thinks a bronze medal makes you the olympic champion.

Go and shove a pentacle up your arse.

[hugh grant]

Yes Barrerra was great, he beat the legend naz. So why if Barrera lost to jones. He still came back and did good stuff. I dont think he is as good as morales though.

[lebrick]

[jjbj2]

The level of ******ity in this thread is epic.

One thing I will put though, Doug Fischer is right in writing "*****S" don't know their history when it comes to boxing.

[IronDanHamza]

The level of ******ity in this thread is epic.

One thing I will put though, Doug Fischer is right in writing "*****S" don't know their history when it comes to boxing.

Doug Fischer isn't much better himself.