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Sergio Martinez vs. Floyd Mayweather: who would win?
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostYeah, I'm not that confident in this pick, and have changed my mind multiple times, but Martinez is not hard to hit and will not throw a lot unless his opponent is. It's hard to imagine Mayweather losing to someone who fights at his pace.
Your avi is mad funny by the way. I was watching that live and just thinking "there is no way this fat f**k Richard Seymour is running this back" haha and literally .5 seconds later he got chased down.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostI used to think that Martinez would walk right through Floyd & stop him early, but now I think Floyd would actually be competitive. In the middle of the ring, Floyd & Martinez will be close to even. Floyd's defense & Martinez's movement keeps it close. The difference between Martinez & Floyd's usual opponents is Martinez moves pretty good around the ring. He can get in & out & give angles.
Floyd still backs straight up sometimes pulling his head back & still can be forced into his shoulder roll defense. If Martinez can back him into the ropes with that one punch power he's shown lately & **** Floyd's hip bone, he can lull Floyd's movement & force him to drop his hands.
Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostFor Floyd in the center of the ring, he'll have to let Martinez lead & counter over the top with straight fast punches. (He got wide with some shots against Ortiz), he can't do that with Martinez. Also Martinez isn't shy about exchanges. He won't be awed with floyd's speed or precision, he also has both. I pick Martinez to win, but in a competitive fight. This is actually the best matchup of any big star fighters. Both Floyd & Martinez would embarrass Pacman.
And precision??? Go back and look at the exact moment when Sergio knocked out Williams. His fcuking eyes were closed when he first swung, not just when he connected. Look at his stats. He's not even close to being as precise as Mayweather. You do realize that you're talking about the most accurate puncher in the last 20-30 years, right?
No 160lbs is faster than a WW unless that WW fights like Margarito. plodder who throws bombs. Martinez isn't overly fast for a jrMW, let alone a WW.
The ONLY thing that Martinez has going for him is that he has size. He doesn't have Mayweather's defense. Mayweather is superior in terms of boxing offense, but not necessarily punching power. He doesn't have Mayweather's speed. Sergio isn't as smart as Mayweather in the ring.
Most importantly, Sergio finds success against men who want to stand and trade. That's not Mayweather's forte. That's what Marquez has been saying for years. Mayweather does not FIGHT. Mayweather defends and attacks when you're vulnerable like no one else. A boxer easily gets frustrated into making mistakes trying to bully Mayweather into an exchange.
Martinez' only real chance is a puncher's chance. He's not going to outbox Mayweather. His best hope is to hurt Mayweather and take advantage. If he can KO Mayweather all the better, but I don't see his style making Mayweather miss because Mayweather rarely commits to anything but jabs and lead hooks UNLESS you've missed and made a mistake and he's countering ... and no one is better at that than Floyd.
Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostAnd that's without the size difference. Add Martinez's size & it's clear that he wins.
Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Postmosley wouldnt beat ortiz right now we both know this. a prime shane would be the undisputed welterweight king right now though.
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Mosley at LW was one of the most terrifying fighters I have ever seen. If Mosley at LW were to fight Floyd at LW I would have had to favor Mosley, dude was an absolute monster at that weight.
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Originally posted by Chopper417 View PostMosley at LW was one of the most terrifying fighters I have ever seen. If Mosley at LW were to fight Floyd at LW I would have had to favor Mosley, dude was an absolute monster at that weight.
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Originally posted by Brother Jay View PostSo Martinez should get dirty? LMAO .... the only way peasants can beat Mayweather is by breaking the rules. Headbutts, punching the hip. What's next ... kidney punches? Pathetic.
LOL@MArtinez being as precise and fast as Floyd. In your dreams. Not even Pacquiao is as fast as Mayweather. Floyd's footwork and hand-speed is second to none at 147 and above.
And precision??? Go back and look at the exact moment when Sergio knocked out Williams. His fcuking eyes were closed when he first swung, not just when he connected. Look at his stats. He's not even close to being as precise as Mayweather. You do realize that you're talking about the most accurate puncher in the last 20-30 years, right?
No 160lbs is faster than a WW unless that WW fights like Margarito. plodder who throws bombs. Martinez isn't overly fast for a jrMW, let alone a WW.
The ONLY thing that Martinez has going for him is that he has size. He doesn't have Mayweather's defense. Mayweather is superior in terms of boxing offense, but not necessarily punching power. He doesn't have Mayweather's speed. Sergio isn't as smart as Mayweather in the ring.
Most importantly, Sergio finds success against men who want to stand and trade. That's not Mayweather's forte. That's what Marquez has been saying for years. Mayweather does not FIGHT. Mayweather defends and attacks when you're vulnerable like no one else. A boxer easily gets frustrated into making mistakes trying to bully Mayweather into an exchange.
Martinez' only real chance is a puncher's chance. He's not going to outbox Mayweather. His best hope is to hurt Mayweather and take advantage. If he can KO Mayweather all the better, but I don't see his style making Mayweather miss because Mayweather rarely commits to anything but jabs and lead hooks UNLESS you've missed and made a mistake and he's countering ... and no one is better at that than Floyd.
Size won't be a problem. Both Ortiz and DLH were just as big if not bigger. Martinez is NOT a better boxer than Mayweather. He, like DLH will press the action against the faster, more nimble Mayweather and be tagged as if by a sniper. When he moves in to commit to a big shot Mayweather will slip it and make him pay. It won't matter if Mayweather doesn't KO him. Repeated blows to the temple and eardrum can bring down a HW let alone a MW.
Yet a prime Shane Mosley has been ducking Mayweather for literally YEARS! Floyd tried to secure a fight with Shane when Shane was the LW king. Shane absolutely refused. Go learn more about how things really happened before writing things like that. Mosley knew even back at LW that Floyd's talent was to be feared and respected.
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Originally posted by DLT View PostI like Floyd because I dont care how good you are, I just dont see anyone who keeps there hands down all the time beating him. Sergio keeps his hands down on his side. That wont work against Floyd
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