Floyd vs Ortiz, what really happened

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

If Floyd just swung at him like Maidana did at Khan when ever Khan thought about touching gloves, i would have been fine with it

But Floyd Came pretending to give him a hug and unloaded while his body was completely limp and not even looking

This is the whole point. He did an acting job and sucker punched him. It was disgusting and basically a reflection of these kids above who posted. The real men in this world are gone man....

[LeG00N]

There are unwritten rules in boxing and all sports. I could easily hit a guy when he's going to touch gloves with me at the beginning of the fight but that wouldn't be looked on as really cool.

What Floyd did was technically legal but was one of the cheapest, low life things I have ever seen in boxing. It's up there with Mike Tyson biting Evander's ear IMO.

Ortiz should defend himself at all times but when a guy extends his hands as if to accept your apology, your not expecting to get hit.

Great post.....

[Russian Crushin]

Perhaps floyd is tired of being disrespected himself. This fight felt very wierd and i definitely expected more for my money. But there is no way you can equate legal puches with an illegal headbutt. Plain and simple, floyd gave what he got. How any man can find fault with that is beyond me.

So if Ortiz gave him a little light tap below the waste, and then FLoyd BLasted him like that, it would be perfectly justified right? I mean one is legal and the other is illegal

You're missing the big picture....it was complete bull*****, not only to Ortiz but us fans, you know that. You're not a machine who can think in terms of only "legal'' and "illegal". It goes deeper then that

Its weird how he begs for respect when he offers none back

[Easy-E]

There are unwritten rules in boxing and all sports. I could easily hit a guy when he's going to touch gloves with me at the beginning of the fight but that wouldn't be looked on as really cool.

What Floyd did was technically legal but was one of the cheapest, low life things I have ever seen in boxing. It's up there with Mike Tyson biting Evander's ear IMO.

Ortiz should defend himself at all times but when a guy extends his hands as if to accept your apology, your not expecting to get hit.

That is nonsense. Floyd accepted Ortiz's apology, touched gloves and embraced him. The took a step back, Ortiz had his hands down, and got clocked with a left. Floyd waited another second, and rather than protect himself, Ortiz was looking at the ref with his hands down. Floyd nailed him again and dropped him.

Its Ortiz's bad. And to compare that to tyson, who 1) did something illegal (floyd did not) and 2) BIT his opponent (when Floyd punched him) goes to show you may have some bias in your "unbiased opinion"

on top of that...Floyd didn't hit him coming on the way in...that would have been classless. Floyd hit him after they touched gloves and after the fight was officially back on (Cortez yelled "fight" clear as day)

[hugh grant]

When Cortez was named referee for this fight it was a bad omen and it was always going to be a hard job to go through a whole fight without controversy.

There was too much pressure on cortez after the hatton and floyd fiasco and Cortez couldnt handle it. He should have gave Ortiz time to recover and then fight again.

[» HE3R0 «]

The biggest problem I have in all of this, is that if Ortiz came towards Floyd with his hands down and Floyd was ready to fight and Floyd hit him then and KO'd him, then I would say it was Ortiz' fault. What happened though was Floyd came at him with his hands down as if to accept the apology and if you watch the replay closely, waited the second they separated from the hug and hit him with a left hook and then hit him with a right hand when Ortiz was looking at the ref like "wtf ref?"

Sorry but I can't call this a win for Floyd. He would have won anyway because I feel he was outclassing Ortiz but Floyd showed the person he REALLY is. His yelling of his father on tv, him insulting Larry Merchant and then hitting after the break like he did vs Shane, Arturo and now Ortiz shows that Floyd has no respect for anything.

Yep. Green K.

Like I said in another thread:

Floyd was performing surgery on Victor and probably could have had him out of there by the tenth or sooner.

Floyd was on the way to silencing 99.8% of his critics with little to no questions asked.

But then that happened. And probably ruined his performance for a lot of people.

I know we're not going to get honest answers, but people should ask themselves how they would feel if Vic was the one that took advantage of that situation?



In that same situation, Floyd was also open to being hit with a combo (left uppercut, right hook to the body).

If Vic did that, even after the headbutt, point deduction, and came out w/ the result of KO'ing Floyd and taken his "0", would the same people label Vic's actions as fair and not cheap?

Fair is fair or a cheap shot is a cheap shot, regardless of who did it.

[-KPB-]

There are unwritten rules in boxing and all sports. I could easily hit a guy when he's going to touch gloves with me at the beginning of the fight but that wouldn't be looked on as really cool.

What Floyd did was technically legal but was one of the cheapest, low life things I have ever seen in boxing. It's up there with Mike Tyson biting Evander's ear IMO.

Ortiz should defend himself at all times but when a guy extends his hands as if to accept your apology, your not expecting to get hit.

And headbutting an opponent in a round in which you were doing well in, isn't?

[Drunk Punch]

Ortiz played dirty and Floyd gave it back in kind. The ref was a joke as usual, he wasn't even looking. He had no idea what the fighters were doing.

[The Big Dunn]

So if Ortiz gave him a little light tap below the waste, and then FLoyd BLasted him like that, it would be perfectly justified right? I mean one is legal and the other is illegal

You're missing the big picture....it was complete bull*****, not only to Ortiz but us fans, you know that. You're not a machine who can think in terms of only "legal'' and "illegal". It goes deeper then that

Its weird how he begs for respect when he offers none back

Big picture? Cmon man Ive already said fight felt wierd and I didnt get what I paid for. BUt for ANY poster to equate legal and illegal based on taste or opinion is bull****. you know this so lets not waste time.

Vic started it, floyd ended it. It looked fake, it felt scripted. That said, floyd did NOTHING wrong. Cahut compares it to the ear bite, Again, thats illegal. ANy of you that says legal, no matter how you define it, is equal or worse than illegal is full of ****.

Floyd took one for the fans in the Zab fight. He did everything some of you are asking. Now because he doesn't you wan to villify him. GTFO!!

Sorry man but sometimes its simple. If that was you are you accepting vic's apology?

[gayfish]

So if Ortiz gave him a little light tap below the waste, and then FLoyd BLasted him like that, it would be perfectly justified right? I mean one is legal and the other is illegal

You're missing the big picture....it was complete bull*****, not only to Ortiz but us fans, you know that. You're not a machine who can think in terms of only "legal'' and "illegal". It goes deeper then that

Its weird how he begs for respect when he offers none back

man this sums up floyd's career.