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  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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    Floyd vs Ortiz, what really happened

    I know the trollers on here are loving this time but I don't care for ****** **** like that. Putting my dislike for Floyd aside I'm going to tell you what really happened.

    Three things happened that were wrong.

    First one was the headbutt by Ortiz, it was a clear foul and you could see the kid was frustrated by Floyd's defense.

    Second was the sucker punch that Floyd hit Ortiz with. Legal technically but it was clearly a cheap shot that ended what could have been an entertaining fight.

    Third was Joe Cortez job of the fight. He should have ushered the fighters to a neutral corner, then started the clock and then initiated the fight once again. Instead he allowed the fighters to wander in the middle of the ring and let Floyd sucker punch Ortiz.

    The biggest problem I have in all of this, is that if Ortiz came towards Floyd with his hands down and Floyd was ready to fight and Floyd hit him then and KO'd him, then I would say it was Ortiz' fault. What happened though was Floyd came at him with his hands down as if to accept the apology and if you watch the replay closely, waited the second they separated from the hug and hit him with a left hook and then hit him with a right hand when Ortiz was looking at the ref like "wtf ref?"

    Sorry but I can't call this a win for Floyd. He would have won anyway because I feel he was outclassing Ortiz but Floyd showed the person he REALLY is. His yelling of his father on tv, him insulting Larry Merchant and then hitting after the break like he did vs Shane, Arturo and now Ortiz shows that Floyd has no respect for anything.

    Floyd is the greatest fighter I have seen in my life time and I have seen Leonard, Duran and Chavez Sr but Floyd the person has no worth. I feel sorry for all you that look up to him. Where have all the real men gone?
  • Curtiz
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    #2
    Ortiz : 2 Attempted Headbutts
    FLoyd : 2 Sucker Punches

    Seems fair to me.

    How many times have we seen a headbutt sway the whole fight & it was ****ing intentional....so i have 0 sympathy.

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    • MindBat
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      #3
      It was wrong on both fighters' parts to say the least. The last thing Cortez ever expected was that type of response from Floyd or any other fighter that night. So, can't really blame him. Though he did miss warning Ortiz for using the head on several occasions.

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        Not defending Ortiz, what he did was dirty and he deserved to have a point taken away.

        There are unwritten rules in boxing. It would be perfectly legal for a fighter to hit another fighter when he goes to touch gloves but we wouldn't think that was cool.

        Floyd sucker punched him like you would see at a club or bar. It was a disgusting ending to what could have been a decent fight, at least for a little while.

        Floyd once said "I'm not the greatest sports figure in America because I'm black" No Floyd, your not the biggest sports figure because your an ass.hole.

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        • MindBat
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          #5
          Originally posted by Curtiz
          Ortiz : 2 Attempted Headbutts
          FLoyd : 2 Sucker Punches

          Seems fair to me.

          How many times have we seen a headbutt sway the whole fight & it was ****ing intentional....so i have 0 sympathy.
          That was a blatant "**** that ****" head butt. I think it earned Ortiz a disqualification on the spot.

          Has me thinking Ortiz would have later attempted a blatant ball blaster then would've tried to apologize for that as well.

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          • MaD RoBoT
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            #6
            it was perfectly legal but cheap one

            in the end, a good fight ended like this and boxing fans were the one who's lost

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            • kadyo's
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              #7
              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
              I know the trollers on here are loving this time but I don't care for ****** **** like that. Putting my dislike for Floyd aside I'm going to tell you what really happened.

              Three things happened that were wrong.

              First one was the headbutt by Ortiz, it was a clear foul and you could see the kid was frustrated by Floyd's defense.

              Second was the sucker punch that Floyd hit Ortiz with. Legal technically but it was clearly a cheap shot that ended what could have been an entertaining fight.

              Third was Joe Cortez job of the fight. He should have ushered the fighters to a neutral corner, then started the clock and then initiated the fight once again. Instead he allowed the fighters to wander in the middle of the ring and let Floyd sucker punch Ortiz.

              The biggest problem I have in all of this, is that if Ortiz came towards Floyd with his hands down and Floyd was ready to fight and Floyd hit him then and KO'd him, then I would say it was Ortiz' fault. What happened though was Floyd came at him with his hands down as if to accept the apology and if you watch the replay closely, waited the second they separated from the hug and hit him with a left hook and then hit him with a right hand when Ortiz was looking at the ref like "wtf ref?"

              Sorry but I can't call this a win for Floyd. He would have won anyway because I feel he was outclassing Ortiz but Floyd showed the person he REALLY is. His yelling of his father on tv, him insulting Larry Merchant and then hitting after the break like he did vs Shane, Arturo and now Ortiz shows that Floyd has no respect for anything.

              Floyd is the greatest fighter I have seen in my life time and I have seen Leonard, Duran and Chavez Sr but Floyd the person has no worth. I feel sorry for all you that look up to him. Where have all the real men gone?
              Solid post cuauh, green K later.

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              • MindBat
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                #8
                Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
                Not defending Ortiz, what he did was dirty and he deserved to have a point taken away.

                There are unwritten rules in boxing. It would be perfectly legal for a fighter to hit another fighter when he goes to touch gloves but we wouldn't think that was cool.

                Floyd sucker punched him like you would see at a club or bar. It was a disgusting ending to what could have been a decent fight, at least for a little while.

                Floyd once said "I'm not the greatest sports figure in America because I'm black" No Floyd, your not the biggest sports figure because your an ass.hole.
                Agreed.......

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MaD vEiN
                  it was perfectly legal but cheap one

                  in the end, a good fight ended like this and boxing fans were the one who's lost

                  This is what it really comes down too.

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #10
                    This was the first Floyd PPV i've ever ordered and it will def be my last

                    His overall ego like people ****ing owe him something, while he's getting $25+ mil, combined with him and Cortez being together, to sucker punching to a win is disgraceful

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