ODLH " I Would have beaten Mayweather and Pacquiao in my prime"

[IronDanHamza]

this post makes me wanna puke...**** de la hoya

Oscar's overrating lives on, it ****ing lives on.

This thread clearly shows the new era are just as much in love with Oscar as they were back then. For some reason.

This thread makes me feel like I'm back in 1997.

And I'm guessing that it's never going away considering the new fans are adopting it.

[ramses07]

So who have Mayweather or PAC thoroughly beat with the talent of a youthful DLH?

[Cash Cow]

Former world champion Oscar de la Hoya feels that if he had fought Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao when he was younger, the result of the bouts would have been different.

In an interview with ******.com, De La Hoya said that neither Pacquiao nor Mayweather would have been able to beat him in his prime.

De La Hoya lost to Mayweather via split decision in 2007, and to Pacquiao via technical knockout in 2008. He retired after fighting Pacquiao.

"Unfortunately, I did fight Floyd Jr. and Pacquiao out of my prime. I can tell you that I would say that, no, they wouldn’t have beaten me in my prime," De La Hoya said.

De La Hoya said that he was a "dead man walking" on the night he fought Pacquiao.

"When I fought Pacquiao, I was drained," he admitted. "You know what, though? It's my fault because I wanted to fight at 147 (pounds). I had to drop a lot of weight within a month before the fight."

"You have to give Pacquiao his credit. He was a young lion that beat me that night, and he's a talented fighter," De La Hoya added.

The "Golden Boy" also said that he could have won against Mayweather had he stuck to his fight plan.

"If I had kept throwing that jab at Mayweather, I would have won the fight. Hands down," he said. "But I was kind of a robot, getting rusty as every round went by, and the screws began to pop out of my sockets."

De La Hoya recently admitted in a televised interview that he struggled with drug and alcohol addiction, and had even considered taking his own life.

"I feel wonderful, I feel blessed, and I feel great that lot of the people that really love me are sticking behind me," he said.

From the ring website.

Man oscar you couldnt even beat Trinidad, Mosley or Hopkins, 3 guys that arent on Mayweathers skill level. Ike Quartey was giving you work, Sweat Pea was giving you work, Felix Sturm was giving you work. None of these guys are as skilled and complete as Mayweather. Even at your best you would never have beat Mayweather.

[BennyST]

He beats Pac definitely, and while I think he could beat Mayweather, it's still possible that he doesn't. I think he collects Pac with a left hook and knocks him out. People really have forgotten how good he was in his prime ie. not when he was fighting at 160 against Hopkins, or knocking out Mayorga, or even Mosley the 2nd time. I'm talking his prime, as in late 90's when Pac was just a little kid still and Oscar was taking on and often out Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Tito, Camacho etc. He was as fast as Pac, bigger, stronger, and could actually move. He was everything that Roach would make sure for Pac to steer well, well clear of.

When both of these guys were basically just starting as pros, Oscar was already considered P4P 1 and was the king of the sport. I think that's largely forgotten by most guys here because they've only just started watching in the last few years when Oscar was always an old, part time fighter that was a big name but really not even close to as good as he was ten years ago.

However, Cash Cow is a ******. That's an important part of this thread. Cash Cow is a ******. Hopkins is a natural 175 pound fighter who was in his prime at 160 and he is most definitely on Mayweather's level. In fact, he's above Mayweathers considering he is quite clearly the greater fighter and more accomplished of the two. Mosley was faster but a completely different fighter....why you are comparing those two I don't know ... or maybe you think Floyd beating a 40 year old Mosley equals Mosley circa 2000?Tito? Oscar clearly did beat Tito.

So, you are basically comparing Floyd to natural 160-175 greats, an offensive whirlwind (which clearly Mayweather is not) and a power punching, massive P4P ATG left hook artist who is also a natural 154 fighter. Well, that makes sense doesn't it.

[RubenSonny]

He beats Pac definitely, and while I think he can beat Mayweather, it's still possible that he doesn't. I think he collects Pac with a left hook and knocks him out. People really have forgotten how good he was in his prime ie. not when he was fighting at 160 against Hopkins, or knocking out Mayorga, or even Mosley the 2nd time. I'm talking his prime, as in late 90's when Pac was just a little kid still and Oscar was taking on and often out Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Tito, Camacho etc.

When both of these guys were basically just starting as pros, Oscar was already considered P4P 1 and was the king of the sport. I think that's largely forgotten by most guys here because they've only just started watching in the last few years when Oscar was always an old, part time fighter that was a big name but really not even close to as good as he was ten years ago.

He only stopped washed up Chavez and the other fighters were washed up as well, those fights don't make me think he could definitely beat Pacquiao or Mayweather and he certainly wouldn't have an easy time with them. For the record, I honestly thought he was clearly beaten by both Whitaker and Quartey. I agree that he'd have an easier time with Pacquiao.

[BennyST]

Oscar's overrating lives on, it ****ing lives on.

This thread clearly shows the new era are just as much in love with Oscar as they were back then. For some reason.

This thread makes me feel like I'm back in 1997.

And I'm guessing that it's never going away considering the new fans are adopting it.

This is the one subject that has always made you see red. You're always on point, and unbiased, apart from with this subject. Is he just a particular dislike of yours cause you gotta admit that the guy that was fighting in and around the late 90's was, no matter how you look at it, a great and special fighter.

[BennyST]

He only stopped washed up Chavez and the other fighters were washed up as well, those fights don't make me think he could definitely beat Pacquiao or Mayweather and he certainly wouldn't have an easy time with them. For the record, I honestly thought he was clearly beaten by both Whitaker and Quartey. I agree that he'd have an easier time with Pacquiao.

That time period, not those exact fights. Not a single one of those guys fight anything like either of these. Just that time period when he was fighting at his best. I agree that Quartey won, though I do think Whitaker lost.

If Oscar could hit you, he would hurt you unless you had scary iron chin. Pac gets hit....quite a lot and he gets hit with the left and right without much trouble. Oscar would land his left hook often and that means, in my opinion, that Pac is going down and out.

Quartey was as iron chinned as they came and look what happened there. He was also so much better than given any credit for now. He was a absolute beast in his prime. Forget Oscar being around today in his prime, if Quartey were around neither Pac nor Floyd would be at 147 as champion right now. I think Ike would beat Mayweather and he would also knock Pac out.

[RubenSonny]

That time period, not those exact fights. Not a single one of those guys fight anything like either of these. Just that time period when he was fighting at his best. I agree that Quartey won, though I do think Whitaker lost.

I don't think styles are as relevant as made out to be, the better fighter can overcome a difficult stylistic match a lot of the time. I think that you have to look at the overall quality of all fighters, not just the different stylistic problems they do or don't pose. Not sure if I explained that right...

If Oscar could hit you, he would hurt you unless you had scary iron chin. Pac gets hit....quite a lot and he gets hit with the left and right without much trouble. Oscar would land his left hook often and that means, in my opinion, that Pac is going down and out.

Pac gets hit but he's got a sturdy chin and he would be damn hard too stop, I think it could happen but I don't think it likely. Oscar wasn't particular defensive and could get hit plenty by Pac IMO, I couldn't see Pacquiao stopping him though he definitely wouldn't like taking those punches. I certainly don't think Oscar could take him out with a single shot it would have to be late in the fight except Oscars stamina wasn't that great. Pac and May definitely have better stamina.

Quartey was as iron chinned as they came and look what happened there. He was also so much better than given any credit for now. He was a absolute beast in his prime. Forget Oscar being around today in his prime, if Quartey were around neither Pac nor Floyd would be at 147 as champion right now. I think Ike would beat Mayweather and he would also knock Pac out.

I think a prime Ike beats both then again I think a prime Ike >>> than prime Oscar. Oscar faced an inactive past prime Ike, he wasn't the same man he was a few years before, and he hadn't looked good in his previous bout against Lopez in which he was hurt and look like he was nearly out of there (I think Quartey won that too). I thought Ike won so I obviously think I prime Ike wins much more handily, just think about the difference it would of made if he was the he had some activity, the fight doesn't really count as a plus for De La Hoya for me.

BTW I favour Oscar over Pacquiao but I'd favour Floyd over Oscar (then again Floyd is my favourite fighter, either way I don't see them being easy fights for the winner. I also think Ike would have beat Whitaker and Trinidad when those fights were relevant, though Pea was past it.

[Jack Napier]

dude woulda got UD'd by Floyd
against the current Pac, he'd get beat but maybe not RTD/KO'd

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A young and prime De La Hoya without the booze and coke sparks anybody today from 147 to 154, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Margs, ect. whoever.

All while rocking a pair of high heels and fishnets.