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  • #41
    why do floyd fans find it so hard to believe floyd is past it?
    they seem to take it as an insult too

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    • #42
      Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
      What people don't realize is that when your a great boxer, then your skill can take you past the point that you physical ability could carry you. B-Hop has been able to do it, and Mayweather will too. May isn't RJJ, he doesn't rely entirely on his speed and agility. Mayweather is a great boxer, & even if he's slowed down a step or two, he's still faster then most and most importantly he's still a better boxer then damn near everybody.
      You would be surprised how much he really does rely on his speed and reflexes, he just does so in a more conventional way.

      When a punch comes in, in order to successfully shoulder roll and deflect the punch, you must do so before the punch connects... that is his reflexes allowing him to do that.

      When a fighter throws a jab, and Floyd leans back and to the side and shoots a counter right hand over the top... that is his reflexes allowing him to do that, and his speed allowing him to connect before the opponent can move out of the way.

      He's an excellent defensive fighter, but those reflexes are what allows him to successfully use that defense... as he gets older and the punches seemingly start coming in faster, he will have trouble rolling BEFORE the punches come in.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
        Experience wise? Yeah.

        Physically? No.

        But IMO, his size and experience would overcome his slight physical decline against a much smaller JLC from 2004.
        As a total fighter, is he better than he has ever been or do past fighters give him more trouble today.?

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
          why do SOME floyd fans find it so hard to believe floyd is past it?
          they seem to take it as an insult too
          Fixed for you.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            As a total fighter, is he better than he has ever been or do past fighters give him more trouble today.?
            Why are you interviewing me?

            I answered your question on JLC.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
              You would be surprised how much he really does rely on his speed and reflexes, he just does so in a more conventional way.

              When a punch comes in, in order to successfully shoulder roll and deflect the punch, you must do so before the punch connects... that is his reflexes allowing him to do that.

              When a fighter throws a jab, and Floyd leans back and to the side and shoots a counter right hand over the top... that is his reflexes allowing him to do that, and his speed allowing him to connect before the opponent can move out of the way.

              He's an excellent defensive fighter, but those reflexes are what allows him to successfully use that defense... as he gets older and the punches seemingly start coming in faster, he will have trouble rolling BEFORE the punches come in.
              Very true reed, but even now when his reflexes are starting to fade, he can put up a conventional guard and still beat fighters to the punch, which still requires speed and reflexes, but also requires controlling distance, excellent timing, and the IQ of a boxer that knows what to do when what he usually does doesn't work.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                Why are you interviewing me?

                I answered your question on JLC.
                So as a total fighter Floyd is at his peak now, e.i his prime.

                Floyd is not past his prime, if he was he would be lessser fighter than he was is the past.

                You may say he has losts things but he has gained others. Prime is not just to with one aspect of a fighter it is to do with the whole package.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
                  Very true reed, but even now when his reflexes are starting to fade, he can put up a conventional guard and still beat fighters to the punch, which still requires speed and reflexes, but also requires timing the IQ of a boxer that knows what to do when what he usually does doesn't work.
                  His ring IQ will definitely help his longevity... the problem with ring IQ and longevity is, the mind knows what to do, but the body can't seemingly do it, or at least fast enough.

                  Now Floyd isn't at that point yet, but he will get there.

                  To the people pointing out he's still peaking because he hasn't taken a lot of punishment in the ring, i.e. getting punched... need to take into account the overall toll of training.

                  Training is wear and tear on the body, on the joints, and the muscles. Floyd has seemingly been training since he was a young boy.

                  Those knees have a lot of miles on them, those elbows and fists have endured a lot of impact over the years... training over 20 years will break the body down, and Floyd trains like no other athlete aside from maybe Pacquiao.

                  You don't need to take punishment in the ring to not endure wear and tear on the body.

                  As he gets older, and recovery time drops dramatically, those training camps will get harder and harder... recovery time will take longer and longer, and the punches will start coming in faster and faster.

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                  • #49
                    it's a nonsense talk....dont know where they base this **** on......they prooly have some sort of motion speedometer or reflex gauges that we dont know about to tell all this bull****....

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      So as a total fighter Floyd is at his peak now, e.i his prime.

                      Floyd is not past his prime, if he was he would be lessser fighter than he was is the past.

                      You may say he has losts things but he has gained others. Prime is not just to with one aspect of a fighter it is to do with the whole package.
                      All I did, was told you he would beat a smaller JLC.

                      The rest is all your opinion.

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