How badly would a defeat to Ortiz affect Mayweather ATG standing.

[Ekscape]

RJJ dropped a few spots when he lost to Tarver and Johnson, but it was clear RJJ was past his prime.

Also RJJ has names like Hopkins and Toney as well as fighter like Hill, Griffen and McCallum on his record, also won a strap a heavyweight and wan untouchable in his prime.

Floyd has not fought top names like a Toney or Hopkins so he falls further when he loses.

Ortiz is a B class fighter, Tarver was A class.

No... Just No... Tarver is a B Class fighter, he beat an old Jones and his biggest win is against Glen Johnson... Just Stop it

[Megamasterking]

When did you start watching boxing?... are you saying Floyd fought people 35 and older his whole career? he didn't fight Corrales, Castillo, Manfredy, Judah... He fought at 160 lb dela hoya, a undefated ricky hatton, Mosley coming off of knocking out Margarito not coming off two ****ty performances (Pacquioa shot POW lol)

I started boxing 25 years ago, i had a pro trainer, a man who had 60 pro fights and was very respected, in fact he only trained pros.

Mosley was not in his prime when he fought Mayweather, if you think he was in his prime or close to it, then rethink.

Mayweather is a great fighter, but his opposition is not like Leonard had, or Ali. For exemple: Leonard fought a prime Duran and lost, it was a war and it was in Montreal... Ali went through wars with Frazier.

[The Big Dunn]

When did you start watching boxing?... are you saying Floyd fought people 35 and older his whole career? he didn't fight Corrales, Castillo, Manfredy, Judah... He fought at 160 lb dela hoya, a undefated ricky hatton, Mosley coming off of knocking out Margarito not coming off two ****ty performances (Pacquioa shot POW lol)

Shane refused to fight floyd in his prime. Can't hold that against floyd.

[Kagami Taiga]

No... Just No... Tarver is a B Class fighter, he beat an old Jones and his biggest win is against Glen Johnson... Just Stop it

this guy likes to do this. this thing where he makes up or twists it to fit his agenda. its more than clear he has no idea wtf hes talking about. but yet he keeps talking as if he makes sense.

[Kagami Taiga]

I started boxing 25 years ago, i had a pro trainer, a man who had 60 pro fights and was very respected, in fact he only trained pros.

Mosley was not in his prime when he fought Mayweather, if you think he was in his prime or close to it, then rethink.

Mayweather is a great fighter, but his opposition is not like Leonard had, or Ali. For exemple: Leonard fought a prime Duran and lost, it was a war and it was in Montreal... Ali went through wars with Frazier.

name one fighter within the last 20 yrs whose opposition even comes close to this?

[The Big Dunn]

I started boxing 25 years ago, i had a pro trainer, a man who had 60 pro fights and was very respected, in fact he only trained pros.

Mosley was not in his prime when he fought Mayweather, if you think he was in his prime or close to it, then rethink.

Mayweather is a great fighter, but his opposition is not like Leonard had, or Ali. For exemple: Leonard fought a prime Duran and lost, it was a war and it was in Montreal... Ali went through wars with Frazier.

But lets be real here. Leonard lost because he fought ******ly, not because Duran was better. Duran is a great fighter but Leonard didn't use his advantages. Floyd would never fight like that.

[D4thincarnation]

hill, griffen and mccallum are not that special that u should include them and act like floyd hasnt fought better fighters. but then again, look who im talking to. u have a knack for ignoring certain details that dont fit your agenda.

floyd may not have fought toney nor hopkins but hes fought more than his fair share to top ranked opponents. once again, if u dunno what ur talking about, stop trying to make your "educated" comments.

A lot better than Judah, Mitchell, N'dou, Baldomir.

RJJ resume > Floyds's resume

Floyd falls more because he is more unproven and Ortiz is not on the same level as Tarver or Johnson.

All other RJJ losses don't count because he was not expected to win, losses only affect your legacy when you are expected to win.

[Ekscape]

I started boxing 25 years ago, i had a pro trainer, a man who had 60 pro fights and was very respected, in fact he only trained pros.

Mosley was not in his prime when he fought Mayweather, if you think he was in his prime or close to it, then rethink.

Mayweather is a great fighter, but his opposition is not like Leonard had, or Ali. For exemple: Leonard fought a prime Duran and lost, it was a war and it was in Montreal... Ali went through wars with Frazier.

No I don't think Mosley was prime, but I do know Floyd isn't prime anymore either and I do know they were both in their 30's when they fought and I do know Mosley was ranked top 5 lb for lb, was coming off the most impression performance of his career and was ranked #1 at welter... and I also know Mosley turned down a fight with Floyd when he was at lightweight because it was to much of a risky fight... hmmm

[Kagami Taiga]

A lot better than Judah, Mitchell, N'dou, Baldomir.

RJJ resume > Floyds's resume

Floyd falls more because he is more unproven and Ortiz is not on the same level as Tarver or Johnson.

All other RJJ losses don't count because he was not expected to win, losses only affect your legacy when you are expected to win.

yea, pick n choose names off of a list to make ur point ur a tool dude. and u make absolutely no sense. now tarver is an a level fighter? lmao. roy had no business losing to either of those guys. but of course, it doesnt fit ur agenda so u'll make **** up.

[Alx.]

i doubt losing would affect his atg ranking for anyone.

he's had a great career and is one of the best fighters of the past decade