How badly would a defeat to Ortiz affect Mayweather ATG standing.

[Kagami Taiga]

RRJ loss shocked the world. There was no doubt about RRJ, he had everything and was so good that losing was no an option. Now, if someone is honest enough, he will admit that Mayweather didn't win all of his fight, injured or not. RRJ was a monster, i remember a fight when, with only a jab, Lucas was down on the floor, he got up, but he knew he was not in same league, even if he became a WC.

Mayweather hasn't been truly tested against a prime warrior, a prime Mosley would have probably KO'd Mayweather with that famous punch in their fight. Prime Mosley was spectacular, but less than RJJ. So that's the reason why i say that RJJ is a different fighter.

I hope my English is good enough... it would be better in French !

if u think mayweather hasnt fought any high level prime fighters then im just gonna end this convo rite now. ur absolutely wrong.

[Ekscape]

I don't have a list, but some people overrate him IMO. His level of competition doesn't warrent that high of a ranking.

man gtfoh, I hate it when someone domonates and then they question their level of competition because they are so good... Jones in his prime was just that good and made his competition look like ****, he beat everyone they put in front of him including embrassing a prime Hopkings, Toney, and Tarver

[Larry the boss]

so you lose it erases things youve already accomplished????cool

[Megamasterking]

if u think mayweather hasnt fought any high level prime fighters then im just gonna end this convo rite now. ur absolutely wrong.

No, that's not what i'm saying... i'm talking about fighters who can beat him by their style of boxing, like a prime Mosley. Norton and Frazier gave Ali problems, Ali had to go through a broken jaw against Norton, and he did risk is health against Frazier. Mayweather did not fight prime warriors like that. Pacquiao should be it, now that they are both in needs of money ! lol !

[Kagami Taiga]

I said that I don't have a list, but if you have a top 50 then by all means post it.

even if u dont have a list, theres no way u can consider a fighter who has went undefeated in 5 different weight classes, possesses 3 lineal titles, won his first world title at 21, fought and beat a number of p4p ranked fighters and one of the greatest fighters of the new millennial not to be an atg. thats not pedestrian. thats not average, thats easily exceptional.

[Ekscape]

RRJ loss shocked the world. There was no doubt about RRJ, he had everything and was so good that losing was no an option. Now, if someone is honest enough, he will admit that Mayweather didn't win all of his fight, injured or not. RRJ was a monster, i remember a fight when, with only a jab, Lucas was down on the floor, he got up, but he knew he was not in same league, even if he became a WC.

Mayweather hasn't been truly tested against a prime warrior, a prime Mosley would have probably KO'd Mayweather with that famous punch in their fight. Prime Mosley was spectacular, but less than RJJ. So that's the reason why i say that RJJ is a different fighter.

I hope my English is good enough... it would be better in French !

When did you start watching boxing?... are you saying Floyd fought people 35 and older his whole career? he didn't fight Corrales, Castillo, Manfredy, Judah... He fought at 160 lb dela hoya, a undefated ricky hatton, Mosley coming off of knocking out Margarito not coming off two ****ty performances (Pacquioa shot POW lol)

[Kagami Taiga]

No, that's not what i'm saying... i'm talking about fighters who can beat him by their style of boxing, like a prime Mosley. Norton and Frazier gave Ali problems, Ali had to go through a broken jaw against Norton, and he did risk is health against Frazier. Mayweather did not fight prime warriors like that. Pacquiao should be it, now that they are both in needs of money ! lol !

u cant judge a fighters resume on him not fighting ppl u think can beat him. that doesnt make sense. who the hell could beat a prime rjj. i guarantee u he was favored over every single fighter hes ever fought up until about 4 yrs ago. u think shane could have beat floyd in his prime? well i dont agree. i dont think shane could have ever beaten floyd. he never had the tools or the intelligence to do it. see what i did there? so what other styles?? margarito? cotto? its all subjective. u can judge a fighter on what might have happened, it makes no sense.

[D4thincarnation]

D4th, remember when I said there are moments where some of your posts make me facepalm so hard that I break my nose, you remember that right? This is one of the those moments.

[D4thincarnation]

so where the frik is rjj??? lol...i dont get how u can do that.

RJJ dropped a few spots when he lost to Tarver and Johnson, but it was clear RJJ was past his prime.

Also RJJ has names like Hopkins and Toney as well as fighter like Hill, Griffen and McCallum on his record, also won a strap a heavyweight and wan untouchable in his prime.

Floyd has not fought top names like a Toney or Hopkins so he falls further when he loses.

Ortiz is a B class fighter, Tarver was A class.

[Kagami Taiga]

RJJ dropped a few spots when he lost to Tarver and Johnson, but it was clear RJJ was past his prime.

Also RJJ has names like Hopkins and Toney as well as fighter like Hill, Griffen and McCallum on his record, also won a strap a heavyweight and wan untouchable in his prime.

Floyd has not fought top names like a Toney or Hopkins so he falls further when he loses.

Ortiz is a B class fighter, Tarver was A class.

hill, griffen and mccallum are not that special that u should include them and act like floyd hasnt fought better fighters. but then again, look who im talking to. u have a knack for ignoring certain details that dont fit your agenda.

floyd may not have fought toney nor hopkins but hes fought more than his fair share to top ranked opponents. once again, if u dunno what ur talking about, stop trying to make your "educated" comments.