Was lennox Lewis the last Great Heavy weight?

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  • Jim Jeffries
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    #21
    Originally posted by Jedi Vader
    From Razor Ruddock 1992 until Oliver McCall II 1997
    So you're saying he didn't improve under Steward and that he was sparked out in the second round by a journeyman in the middle of his prime? Interesting.

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      #22
      Originally posted by jisi
      No.

      The last great Heavyweight will be Wladimir Kltischko when he retires.

      Lewis vs. Wald would be a 50:50 fight.
      you mean right now???

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        #23
        Originally posted by uglypug
        he won by default. . . if you don't think that was a fight where a rematch should have taken place, you don't deserve to be a boxing fan. . . ****, you don't even deserve feet if you don't think a rematch should have taken place to decide who is the better fighter. . .
        If the cuts were illegal through butting etc. then yes, a rematch is necessary.

        However, an old, fat, demotivated and out of shape Lewis destroyed the face of a fit and very prime Vitali in 6 rounds.

        No rematch needed.

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          #24
          Originally posted by LarryX2011
          you mean right now???
          Larry, if Lewis came back now he'd still starch Wlad in 8 rounds.

          It would be Moorer-Foreman all over again.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
            So you're saying he didn't improve under Steward and that he was sparked out in the second round by a journeyman in the middle of his prime? Interesting.
            well he brutallly avenged that loss didnt he

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              #26
              Originally posted by LarryX2011
              you mean right now???
              You can speculate all you want about how Wlad/Lewis would've transpired, but it's not like Wlad didn't call him out back in March 2001.

              Go to the 3:02

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                #27
                Originally posted by LarryX2011
                well he brutallly avenged that loss didnt he
                Are you being serious? Or have you not seen the fight?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Jedi Vader
                  Bro, he WON the fight within 6 rounds. Losing that fight and then retiring would take something away from his legacy.
                  lewis was old fat & tired.

                  the vitali fight was nothing more then a "adding to his leagacy" type of thing. he didn't need to fight vitali at all. he retired because he should have retired 2 fights before vitali.............

                  a past it's prime lewis stopped a PRIME vitali.

                  HAHAHAHAHA

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by uglypug
                    lennox was a great champion, but he ended his career with a cowardly move. he wins by default (while losing on all three cards), and then promises a rematch, and then subsequently retires. . .

                    that really takes away from his career in my opinion. he finally gets a worthy challenger, gets beat up for most of the fight, and then refuses a rematch.

                    i can't think of another fighter that won by default, while losing on the cards, and never rematched . . . if you can think of one, then please tell me.
                    Here's a question:

                    Would Lennox Lewis even be considered great if he had not fought Tyson and Holyfield?

                    I believe the answer would have to be "No".

                    And when one considers that Lewis fought Tyson when he was nothing more than a ex-con who was partying and pissing his money away with absolutely no discipline ....

                    and Holyfield had already retired over a heart condition that he had not medically treated, but had his pastor "faith heal" him ....

                    Lennox Lewis targeted the best HW's of that era at their weakest points. I believe that without those bouts he would not be considered great.

                    Look at the points in which he faced Tyson and Holyfield in their careers and lives.

                    Then ask yourselves: Would I consider Lewis "great" had he not beat those men for the name recognition when he could have faced them when they were prime HWs?

                    The reality won't live up to the hype.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Brother Jay
                      Here's a question:

                      Would Lennox Lewis even be considered great if he had not fought Tyson and Holyfield?

                      I believe the answer would have to be "No".

                      And when one considers that Lewis fought Tyson when he was nothing more than a ex-con who was partying and pissing his money away with absolutely no discipline ....

                      and Holyfield had already retired over a heart condition that he had not medically treated, but had his pastor "faith heal" him ....

                      Lennox Lewis targeted the best HW's of that era at their weakest points. I believe that without those bouts he would not be considered great.

                      Look at the points in which he faced Tyson and Holyfield in their careers and lives.

                      Then ask yourselves: Would I consider Lewis "great" had he not beat those men for the name recognition when he could have faced them when they were prime HWs?

                      The reality won't live up to the hype.
                      Simply bias and untruthfully speculative post. Lewis is greater than both Tyson and Holyfield imo. Lewis also chased after the big fights throughout his career he was avoided and side stepped was Bowe an old man when he trashed his belt to avoid Lewis?

                      Now I have a question would Tyson be considered great if it wasn’t for the media hype machine backing him and telling us all of ‘iron Mike the badest man on the planet?

                      I believe the answer is no, because he simply never achieved half as much as what the hype surrounding him suggested. In reality he never beat anyone who was that good.

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