Considering The Plaster Scandal, Should FMJ Still Have Fought Marg?

[D4thincarnation]

There's proof

HE DIDN'T **** AFTER THAT FIGHT


That's the proof... and its not like he's old cause he's not

He fought the best fighter in the world and the damage he did caused the p4p king to end up in front of a doctor.

[Deal With It]

Take a look at Floyd's entire WW record, starting from late 2005, and you may get an idea why Margarito is not in the list.

11/19/05 - S. Mitchell (KOed by Tszyu just before Floyd)
04/08/06 - Z. Judah (Previously undisputed champ, lost a close fight to a top ten contender, media & fans were clamoring for this fight all of 2005)
11/04/06 - C. Baldomir (#1 lineal champ, coming off 2 big wins over veteran opponents)
12/08/07 - R. Hatton (Former belt holder @ Welterweight, undefeated p4p ranked fighter)
09/19/09 - J. M. Marquez (#2 ranked p4p, future hall of famer, completely shut out by Floyd)
05/01/10 - S. Mosley (#1 Welterweight in the world, coming off one of the biggest wins of his career, nearly completely shut out by Floyd)

And these are the missing names who were top contenders in the WW division from late 2006, to 2007, 2008, 2009 until the middle of 2010:
Antonio Margarito (Career Paper Champion, has never proven to be an elite fighter without his plaster wraps)
Miguel Cotto (Career paper champion, ducked Floyd @ 140)
Paul Williams (Wasn't even a top 5 ranked Welterweight until the end of '07, lost, then moved up to Junior Middleweight in '08)
Joshua Clottey(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
M. Pacquiao (Scared to fight without the assistance of his PED's)

Anything else?

[tatangb45]

I hate to play devil's advocate, but you made me do it.

If Floyd takes those fights, here's what you say:

Antonio Margarito - Guy already lost to Daniel Santos 2x of all people.

Miguel Cotto - Had life and death wars with Judah, Corley, Torres, and Mosley.

Paul Williams - This would've been a good win for Floyd, but you still would've said Williams was in a life and death battle with Matthysse. Who's Matthysse.

Joshua Clottey - Never beat anyone substantial.

M. Pacquiao - LW who was in life and death battles with Morales, Marquez, and the 2 other fighters he lost too..

Viewers keep in mind, these aren't my personal arguments. I'm just showing you how it's a no win situation for Floyd either way.

Weak response.
What you may have deliberately ignored is that these fighters missing in Floyds list were the top contenders during most of Floyd's time at WW. They were the major threats, not the guys he fought.
If you take out Mosley, in his prime, none of the fighters Floyd fought would have beaten any of the boxers he avoided.

[Champ Is Here]

He fought the best fighter in the world and the damage he did caused the p4p king to end up in front of a doctor.

I hope you not talkin about Pac, cause it doesnt take much to hurt him


Mosley took his punches like it was nothing and knocked him out. Watch what Cotto do

[BoxingGenius27]

Weak response.
What you may have deliberately ignored is that these fighters missing in Floyds list were the top contenders during most of Floyd's time at WW. They were the major threats, not the guys he fought.
If you take out Mosley, in his prime, none of the fighters Floyd fought would have beaten any of the boxers he avoided.

This is true, these guys were contenders at the time (Asterick next to Margarito). I'm not denying that.

What I'm saying is and showed you is you can discredit or make an excuse even if Floyd did fight those top contenders on your list.

All I'm saying is Floyd should fight the best. I think in fighting Victor Ortiz, he's trying to do that. But in the same breath, you have to give the man credit when he does fight the best and wins.

Just like people should give Manny credit if he takes the test and beats the best. No doubting that.

[Cash Cow]

[daggum]

if pac fights and loses to a journeyman or a faded fighter and then mayweather beats that journeyman/faded fighter is it the same as beating pac? please answer with a logical answer or if not something funny like baldomir wasn't a journeyman he was the linear champ have some respect!

[Cash Cow]

if pac fights and loses to a journeyman or a faded fighter and then mayweather beats that journeyman/faded fighter is it the same as beating pac? please answer with a logical answer or if not something funny like baldomir wasn't a journeyman he was the linear champ have some respect!

[Cash Cow]

Floyd shoul have fought him.

The only excuse acceptable for Floyd not fight him is that he knew he was cheating.

If Floyd did know this he should have informed the authorites, and made sure Uncle Roger checke those wraps properly before the fight.

[tatangb45]

This is true, these guys were contenders at the time (Asterick next to Margarito). I'm not denying that.

What I'm saying is and showed you is you can discredit or make an excuse even if Floyd did fight those top contenders on your list.

All I'm saying is Floyd should fight the best. I think in fighting Victor Ortiz, he's trying to do that. But in the same breath, you have to give the man credit when he does fight the best and wins.

Just like people should give Manny credit if he takes the test and beats the best. No doubting that.

You can discredit any fighter and show their imperfections, but you have to look at the bigger picture.
What I tried to present here is to show the quality of the fighters Floyd fought in his entire WW career as compared to the ones he avoided in the same period. This should give any objective observer a clearer picture why precisely the missing names on the list are missing. Any supposedly knowledgeable person should not need any further elaboration on this matter.