Re watched Berto vs Ortiz...
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I don't need to know Ortiz,I know his flaws and I know boxing and I doubt Ortiz beats Bradley with no skill bro..OR jones,and what makes you think he beats Karass??A fighter who reminds me of Maidana(in style anyway)a fighter who gave Ortiz all kinds of problems..Think about the sport and a fighters flaws not just who ya like bro styles make fights and Bradley is all wrong for Ortiz..Why ya think Maidana won't speak Bradleys name and ducked him twice now??Wow, you just don't think anything of Ortiz do you?
Bradley at 147 beats him? Because Ortiz is not fighting at 140 ever again folks, let's get that straight.
Bradley is too small for him and Ortiz will run him down. Jones will NOT beat him, he arguably lost the first fight with Soto Karass, come on.
Khan could beat him but would have to box him for 12 rounds and if Maidana could touch him, I have no doubt Ortiz can too. I think Ortiz KO's Khan in the later rounds.Comment
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funny to see different perspectives. me and Dunn agree. Im not saying the skill was different but the strength and endurance levels were far different. ortiz burned out fast at 140. I don't see that happening at 147. Plus, he's a young dude, dude is still growing.
i think he has fatal flaws at any weight. floyd will expose his defensive liabilities (leaning too much with punches, no jab, admiring his work), but im not sure how many other dudes at 147 can do that.Comment
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I don't think Victor Ortiz has improve a single bit since the Lamont Peterson fight.
He is exactly the same fighter.Comment
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Rome is correct, most likely all those guys beat Ortiz. I like Ortiz, I do, but realistically Khan and Bradley would potentially school Ortiz, it might not even be close IMO.Bradley beats him,Khan beats him(if his chin holds up)I'd pick Maidana over him..Jones I feel beats him as well..Now I could be wrong this is boxing but from what I seen from all the guy's named he looks like the weak link..He does not throw a jab he has no head movement and can't fight off the back foot..It's not to say Ortiz is a **** fighter just to say he is a good fighter with flaws who could lose bro..Not only to May and Pac but a few fighters,and one win over Berto(who is very unproven himself)does not change that..
Remember Bradley fairly easily beat Peterson, the guy who gave Ortiz a boxing lesson.
And anyone who thinks Ortiz ****s them all is a fool.Last edited by Froghead99; 08-10-2011, 02:02 PM.Comment
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