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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #61
    Originally posted by jenandkira
    Lol, Bradley. Didn't you say Alexander would beat him too? No, at 147 Ortiz will **** them all.
    Yea ok the same way Ortiz was suppose to **** Peterson right lol..

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #62
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
      Wow, you just don't think anything of Ortiz do you?

      Bradley at 147 beats him? Because Ortiz is not fighting at 140 ever again folks, let's get that straight.

      Bradley is too small for him and Ortiz will run him down. Jones will NOT beat him, he arguably lost the first fight with Soto Karass, come on.

      Khan could beat him but would have to box him for 12 rounds and if Maidana could touch him, I have no doubt Ortiz can too. I think Ortiz KO's Khan in the later rounds.
      I don't need to know Ortiz,I know his flaws and I know boxing and I doubt Ortiz beats Bradley with no skill bro..OR jones,and what makes you think he beats Karass??A fighter who reminds me of Maidana(in style anyway)a fighter who gave Ortiz all kinds of problems..Think about the sport and a fighters flaws not just who ya like bro styles make fights and Bradley is all wrong for Ortiz..Why ya think Maidana won't speak Bradleys name and ducked him twice now??

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      • jenandkira
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        #63
        Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
        Yea ok the same way Ortiz was suppose to **** Peterson right lol..
        Who gives a ****. Ortiz is fighting Mayweather, while Peterson is begging Khan for a pay day.

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        • Walt Liquor
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          #64
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          AGree 100%. Looks like 147 is the best weight for him for the next year or so. If his power stays with him he is gonna be a problem at 154.

          Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
          I don't buy he could not make weight and that's why he lost to Maidana and imo lost to Peterson..He enjoyed a size advantage over both,and tbh I seen nothing different in his style from either weight..The difference was in opponent,not his skill(Ortiz)..



          funny to see different perspectives. me and Dunn agree. Im not saying the skill was different but the strength and endurance levels were far different. ortiz burned out fast at 140. I don't see that happening at 147. Plus, he's a young dude, dude is still growing.

          i think he has fatal flaws at any weight. floyd will expose his defensive liabilities (leaning too much with punches, no jab, admiring his work), but im not sure how many other dudes at 147 can do that.

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          • Rome-By-Ko
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            #65
            Originally posted by jenandkira
            Who gives a ****. Ortiz is fighting Mayweather, while Peterson is begging Khan for a pay day.
            Great response..Not..

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #66
              I don't think Victor Ortiz has improve a single bit since the Lamont Peterson fight.

              He is exactly the same fighter.

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                #67
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                I don't think Victor Ortiz has improve a single bit since the Lamont Peterson fight.

                He is exactly the same fighter.
                He's physically stronger now, better stamina too.

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                • Rome-By-Ko
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  He's physically stronger now, better stamina too.
                  How can we really tell that from a fight with Berto??A fighter known to have stamina problems himself..

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                    Bradley beats him,Khan beats him(if his chin holds up)I'd pick Maidana over him..Jones I feel beats him as well..Now I could be wrong this is boxing but from what I seen from all the guy's named he looks like the weak link..He does not throw a jab he has no head movement and can't fight off the back foot..It's not to say Ortiz is a **** fighter just to say he is a good fighter with flaws who could lose bro..Not only to May and Pac but a few fighters,and one win over Berto(who is very unproven himself)does not change that..
                    Rome is correct, most likely all those guys beat Ortiz. I like Ortiz, I do, but realistically Khan and Bradley would potentially school Ortiz, it might not even be close IMO.

                    Remember Bradley fairly easily beat Peterson, the guy who gave Ortiz a boxing lesson.

                    And anyone who thinks Ortiz ****s them all is a fool.
                    Last edited by Froghead99; 08-10-2011, 02:02 PM.

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                    • Ko King 212
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                      #70
                      Smh @ the overating of kahn and bradley.

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