Who has Muhammad Ali beating that makes people think he stand a chance against WK

[WesleySnipes]

all i got to say to this is...

[WladIsTheChamp]

Yea I am and apparently you are having a hissie fit, knee jerk reaction about it, unable to have a reasonable discussion.

Like, "oh no, how dare you try to make a point referencing a guy from the present and comparing him to The Greatest of the past" blah.

If you're so convinced that Ali is better and unable to counter more specifically than Knee-Jerk responses, then get out of the thread, nitwit.

Yeah, it's funny as hell too. It's like talking to a ****** fundamentalist and insulting the Koran, they think it's blasphemy if you even think that Ali can be beaten (which he obviously was, by a 7-1 LHW among others). Ali would get mauled and TKOd by either Klitschko, perhaps even KOd like Chambers was, cold and hanging over the ropes. That is the truth.

[The_Expert]

nobody has answered my first question yet

[WladIsTheChamp]

most of Wlads opponents were in great condition. Ali fought allot of fat bums himself

Ali fought a guy who was out of the hospital from a gunshot wound to his stomach, who had several feet of intestines taken out, and had one lame leg because of nerve damage the bullet did - true story. That was considered a great win for Ali.

Just take a look at old pictures of Chuck Wepner when he fough Ali, same Chuck Wepner that knocked Ali down, he looked like a straight up fat bold bum. Compared to Wepner, Sultan Ibragimov looks like Mr. Olympia.

Ali could barely muster a 60% KO ratio against LHW and CWs, some as light 171 lbs, and he was BIGGER than most of them. Wlad has a KO of 83% against real HWs. I give Gayevid a good chance to beat Ali with his speed and power and size.

[JayDee2700]

SMMFH!!! If you really think Wlad could beat a prime Ali!!! LMFAO!!! Wlad is the most macanical HW ever, yea he has reach an a good jab after that he has nothin, defs is not that good, David Haye(tho he was garbage) showed that Wlad has problems with speed, and Haye has really no boxing skills, he just has good speed, but Ali was faster had way better foot movement and waaaaaay better boxing skills then Haye, Ali would out box Wlad easy, the jab would hit nothing but air cause Wlad is too slow. Wlad is a good fighter but he is very 1 dimentional an gets beat by a lot of the ATG's. That is the difference between this era and the Ali era, Fighters today in that Div have little or no skills, where fighters then had good skill and used it to there best ability.

[CarlosG815]

People who looked presentable in a pair of shoes and trunks and actually had boxing skills.

[WladIsTheChamp]

SMMFH!!! If you really think Wlad could beat a prime Ali!!! LMFAO!!! Wlad is the most macanical HW ever, yea he has reach an a good jab after that he has nothin, defs is not that good, David Haye(tho he was garbage) showed that Wlad has problems with speed, and Haye has really no boxing skills, he just has good speed, but Ali was faster had way better foot movement and waaaaaay better boxing skills then Haye, Ali would out box Wlad easy, the jab would hit nothing but air cause Wlad is too slow. Wlad is a good fighter but he is very 1 dimentional an gets beat by a lot of the ATG's. That is the difference between this era and the Ali era, Fighters today in that Div have little or no skills, where fighters then had good skill and used it to there best ability.

Wlad had problems with Gayevid? LOL Did you watch the fight or you just parroting what you heard someone else say?

Ali would get owned by either Klitschko. Just cause the only place you can watch your fighter fight is on grainy ESPN Clasic videos, doesn't mean they would beat the Klitschkos. Stop living in the past. Usian Bolt would own Jesse Owens, just like the Klitschkos would own Ali and other past greats.

[Clint650]

Wlad couldnt knock out a former cruiserweight champ. He outweighed haye by 30-40 pounds. It took him 11 rounds to finally put chambers out.

The 40 yr old george foreman who knocked out moore would of been an interesting fight for wlad. These guys in their prime would have made wlad quit on his stool, bleeding. Larry holmes would knock wladimir into next week. Ali would have played with him and finished him in the late rounds. Wlad is not an all time great. He's good but the haye fight really put things into perspective.

[The_Expert]

Wlad couldnt knock out a former cruiserweight champ. He outweighed haye by 30-40 pounds. It took him 11 rounds to finally put chambers out.

The 40 yr old george foreman who knocked out moore would of been an interesting fight for wlad. These guys in their prime would have made wlad quit on his stool, bleeding. Larry holmes would knock wladimir into next week. Ali would have played with him and finished him in the late rounds. Wlad is not an all time great. He's good but the haye fight really put things into perspective.

I still think the Ali - Wlad fight would go like this

[Die Antwoord]

Wlad couldnt knock out a former cruiserweight champ. He outweighed haye by 30-40 pounds. It took him 11 rounds to finally put chambers out.

The 40 yr old george foreman who knocked out moore would of been an interesting fight for wlad. These guys in their prime would have made wlad quit on his stool, bleeding. Larry holmes would knock wladimir into next week. Ali would have played with him and finished him in the late rounds. Wlad is not an all time great. He's good but the haye fight really put things into perspective.

Which version of Ali? The one who was knocked unconcious and forced to cheat by a modern day SMW in Henry Cooper? Or the one that was knocked down by Chuck Wepner, robbed Young and Shavers and lost to the fantastically awful Leon Spinks? GTFO