Who has Muhammad Ali beating that makes people think he stand a chance against WK

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  • ChopperRead
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    #271
    Originally posted by The_Expert
    the 60 70 80 were nothing compared to todays era. How many soviet boxers fought in those eras?

    Today we got boxers from every part of the world. So the talent pool is much higher.

    And like I said all the boxers Ali beat would be considered midgets in todays era. Ali would stand no chance against Wlad.
    Many boxing fans live in the past, unfortunately. I already stated my thoughts on why it's impossible to look accurately at Clay/Ali in these times.

    As for what would happen, I think Clay would be in tough against Lewis or the K-Bros.

    Wlad to me is the most vulnerable of the three because he in the past has not reacted well to being flurried, and Clay would no doubt launch a barrage of speedy punches at him, and might be able to get him floundering around a bit.

    Can't see Clay having any chance against Lennox or Vitali.

    But ultimately it's all conjecture, and we'll never know for sure.

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    • Deal With It
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      #272
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      I would love to hear how Wlad beats Ali. I seriously can't picture it.
      1ST ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      2ND ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      3RD ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      4TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      5TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      6TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      7TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      8TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      9TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      10TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      11TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      12TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

      Wlad's dynamic & versatile skillset leads him to a wide UD victory.

      It would be by far the easiest fight of Wlad's career.

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      • Margaritopac
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        #273
        I think Wlad vs Ali is a 50:50 fight, but I am pretty sure Wlad would whoop all the other guys from the Ali era like Frazier, Norton, Jimmy Young, Chuvalo, Lyle, Shavers. Foreman might have a decent chance cause of his power but I would still favor Wlad

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        • JAB5239
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          #274
          Originally posted by The_Expert
          and lets not forget in Ali's era allot of fights were fixed.

          I wouldnt be suprised if 70% of Ali's wins were fixed.

          How many fights were fixed? Can we get some statistics and links to back this claim?

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          • AntonTheMeh
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            #275
            Originally posted by Player3
            1ST ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            2ND ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            3RD ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            4TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            5TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            6TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            7TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            8TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            9TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            10TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            11TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            12TH ROUND: JAB, JAB, JAB, OVERHAND RIGHT

            Wlad's dynamic & versatile skillset leads him to a wide UD victory.

            It would be by far the easiest fight of Wlad's career.
            sounds 'bout right.

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            • Rocky Rode
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              #276
              I've always thought it was funny when people try to act like Ali fought nothing but midgets. When you compare their significant wins, you'll see that Ali fighting midgets is an urban myth.

              Ali
              George Foreman- 6'4"
              Ken Norton-6'3"
              Ron Lyle-6'3"
              Joe Frazier-5'11"

              Wlad
              Haye- 6'3"
              Sam Peter- 6'2"
              Tony Thompson-6'6"
              Chambers-6'1"

              Aside from Thompson/Frazier there's virtually no difference in height. Ali was beating guys who are the same size as most of Wlad's current day competition. A huge difference however, is that the fighters on Ali's resume were alot more skilled and were in shape.

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              • JDezi4
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                #277
                Originally posted by The_Expert
                and lets not forget in Ali's era allot of fights were fixed.

                I wouldnt be suprised if 70% of Ali's wins were fixed.
                U has a point in the beginning, but this just ruined everything

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                • tennis-legend
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                  #278
                  i think ali is a much better boxer and fighter

                  i think ali would outpoint both klitchsko's because his chin would be too much for either puncher

                  styles make boxing

                  i dont rate tyson in the same league as Ali but i would say in a match up- tyson would probably Knock him down several times- and maybe even KO

                  tyson ali- is like federer nadal

                  ali's weakness (which frasier and cooper exploited) was his hands being low and not seeing a left hook coming
                  its also tyson's best shot- i could see tyson landing it on ali

                  federer's only weakness is his backhand against heavy topspin- nadal's best shot- his lefty topspin forehand goes naturally into federer's weakness

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                  • Phil Ivey
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                    #279
                    Same WLAD who couldn't KO a career cruserweight ? who happens to also be his best win LOL.

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                    • CaRnAgEViOLaToR
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                      #280
                      Ali would have ****in embarrassed Wlad....Ali is a diff level fighter....

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