Who has Muhammad Ali beating that makes people think he stand a chance against WK

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  • ALG United
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    #201
    Originally posted by strykr619
    Yet Ali was BEATEN by a half Blind Joe Frazier. ( would have won in Manila too if it wasn't for his GD corner ).

    TOO MANY people make Ali out to be some invincible god fighter who NEVER LOST.

    Ali is a great fighter but Joe Lewis is greater. Ali is MEMORABLE because of the era he fought in and how he sold fights. (what he did to Frazier was unforgivable. He made Frazier out to be some sellout when in reality when Ali had NOTHING Frazier helped him out).

    Rumble in the Jungle and thrilla in manila where catch phrases Ali created and hyped up but in the end He isn't some unbeatable God-Boxer.

    Vitali in his Prime would give Ali fits. Wlad im not so sure about but Vitali I think has a good chance of beating Ali in his PRIME.
    Come on, you only learned about Frazier's eye problem because you just watched that docu of Joe making excuses.. It's not the first time that they fought each other, they did it 3 times and Ali won 2 of three.. Ali was a huge underdog when he first won over Fraizier, and was a huge underdog when he won over Foreman...

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      #202
      Originally posted by shogunn
      Just read the bold. how can someone be so dumb
      You think Ali hits harder than Haye?

      You dont think Byrd weighted 213 pounds?

      What did I say that was dumb?

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        #203
        Originally posted by ALG United
        Come on, you only learned about Frazier's eye problem because you just watched that docu of Joe making excuses.. It's not the first time that they fought each other, they did it 3 times and Ali won 2 of three.. Ali was a huge underdog when he first won over Fraizier, and was a huge underdog when he won over Foreman...
        Ali beat Joe Frazier after Joe was beaten by Foreman.

        Ali beat an over the hill Frazier.

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          #204
          Originally posted by The_Expert
          How do you know Foreman, Liston, Norton are more powerful than the Klitschkos???

          Or are you just making assumptions based on nothing like most of Ali's nuthuggers?
          What makes you so sure that the klits can KO Ali?!! It's the same thing kid, we are all basing our arguements on an assumption of what could have transpired.... Foreman, Liston and Norton have explosive powers with speed, the Klits have devastating power with less speed, and both of them are slow on their feet...

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            #205
            Originally posted by The_Expert
            Ali beat Joe Frazier after Joe was beaten by Foreman.

            Ali beat an over the hill Frazier.
            WTF?!! Over the hill?!! Joe was the heavyweight champion when he lost it to Foreman, and then the next year he was fighting Ali to be the no.1 contender against Foreman.. If you don't know, during those golden days of boxing, the top fighters would always go round robin with each other just to prove which of them would stay at the top, they don't mind having a loss in their record just as long as they are fighting the best competition, unlike the fighters of today, staying undefeated just to be KO"d like a bum in the end...

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              #206
              Originally posted by The_Expert
              Ali beat Joe Frazier after Joe was beaten by Foreman.

              Ali beat an over the hill Frazier.


              I agree ppl wax lyrical about Ali too much. Norton could have been given the nod on all three occasions and it would have been justified. I also thought Jimmy Young beat him.

              However you have shattered any hope of gaining any credibility with your ridiculous statements. You think Sam Peter and Chris Byrd are better than Liston, Frazier and Foreman.......you're a FOOL plain and simple......

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                #207
                Originally posted by The_Expert
                His best wins were against Frazier, Foreman and Liston.

                None of those guys had the height and weight advantage that Wlad would have.
                Foreman Liston and Frazier would all be considered midgets in todays HW division.


                Ali vs Wlad would be similar to Wlad vs Byrd IMO.

                What do you guys think about this fight.
                Foreman was 6'4 guy. You are one hell of an idiot.

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by The_Expert
                  Ali beat Joe Frazier after Joe was beaten by Foreman.

                  Ali beat an over the hill Frazier.


                  Still waiting for you to explain to me how a 40+ year old George Foreman could compete with the best heavies of the 90's after a 10 year lay off, given they were all so much bigger and had the advantages of 25 years of sports science development???


                  Also still waiting for you to explain to me how Sam Peter, who is supposedly better than Liston, Frazier and Foreman, and would have beaten them all due to size and advances in sport science couldn't beat a FAT former 160 pounder???

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Chopper417
                    Foreman was 6'4 guy. You are one hell of an idiot.


                    6'4 and top FIVE power all time, if not number one, and still couldn't back Liston up.

                    I bet "The_Expert" doesn't know that despite Liston being just over 6 foot his fists were the size of melons. His clenched fist measured 15 inches in around. For context that's about twice the average man's. He had an 84 inch reach.....how long is Wlad's reach "Expert"??? Hint---> it's not more than 84 inches ***GGOT!!!!

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                      #210
                      I was exagerating with the Sam Peter comment.

                      However I really believe Chris Byrd would beat Foreman.

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