Who has Muhammad Ali beating that makes people think he stand a chance against WK

[The_Expert]

I feel Primo Carnera & Jess Willard are more talented than Wlad & Vitali

Prove me wrong.

why would I want to prove you wrong. Thats you opinion.

I dont worship the Klitschkos so what do I care what you think

[ChopperRead]

I didnt make this thread because im a klitschko nuthugger but because I really believe I Wlad would beat Ali.

If I made a thread about me thinking Tyson would beat Ali I wouldn't get attacked and red k'd like happened now. Even though Tyson resume is not better than Wlads

Yeah, no doubt about that.

Even if you want it to be about boxing, you compare the K-Bros and Clay/Ali and you are instantly in a racial minefield.

[The_Expert]

How do you think Ali does against todays heavyweights ?(not including the klitschkos)

He would be like Tomasz Adamek. Beating some limited bigger guys but having a hard time with them. He would have been a champ in todays era if it wasnt for the K bros having all the belts.

[Sadistic]

Ali never fought anyone like Wlad.

That rope a dope bullshit won't work against Wlad.

Ali can't outsmart Wlad.

Feather fisted Ali can't stop Wlad.

Ali can't outbox Wlad.

Stylistically, Wlad is a nightmare matchup for Ali.

Wlad by UD or late KO.

Just look at that inferior weakling Ali.

Ali was a ridiculously overrated punching bag. That's why he's a ******ed vegetable.

[Sadistic]

Ali's era was just a bunch of overrated Amercian bums beating up eachother. It was a ridiculously overrated weak era.

All of the best American heavyweights have been exposed and destroyed by Klitschkos and other Eastern Europeans. The same thing is happening in many other weight classes too.

Soviets/Eastern Europeans weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990s because of the cold war/iron curtain.

Now Soviets/Eastern Europeans are allowed to turn pro and we're already taking over boxing.

This is just the beginning of the Eastern European domination.

NFL/NBA is just another WEAK EXCUSE.

There are tons of potential Eastern European Heavyweight Boxers who are doing Combat Sambo, MMA, Kickboxing, Hockey, Olympic Wrestling, Olympic Weightlifting, Powerlifting, Worlds Strongest Man Competitions, etc.

America isn't the only country on the planet that has other sports.

Eastern European fighters are superior.

The Klitschkos are the negrocutioners.

Wlad and Vitali are the two greatest heavyweights of all time.

Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.

[-KPB-]

Yeah, no doubt about that.

Even if you want it to be about boxing, you compare the K-Bros and Clay/Ali and you are instantly in a racial minefield.

But whats even more funny, is the fact that Vitali seems to be given a lot of favours in H2H fantasy matchups....and his resume is even WORSE than Tyson........think about it.....

[-KPB-]

Clay's overall mythology certainly owes a lot to the white *******ism of the 1960s.

The white libs loved it when Clay/Ali treated them with contempt. It justified a lot of the ideas they wanted to promote. Just watch an old episode of "All In The Family" and listen to the ideology of "Meathead" to see what I'm talking about.

These are the same limo libs who liked black people as long they didn't have to actually live near any or associate with any. Very patronising.

As for whites who hate the K-Bros, some of them seem to have a very romanticized view of the black athlete, and it seems the Klitschkos mess with that and it upsets them. An old 1960s guy like Bert Sugar exhibits a hatred of the K-Bros that has to stem from something more than just their boxing.
Merely disliking them is one thing, but hating them is another.

I agree, I mean look at how America have taken to Dirk Notiwtski.....the NBA has benn dominated by these so called "black athletes".......a white European came and domintated, and instead of being loved and called one of the very best, all they did was say how weak the league was, how lucky he was etc....

I mean look at how the media has sided with Floyd Mayweather when it comes to the May/Pac saga...look at how all the media are obssessing themselves over this great BLACK athelete in Floyd and calling him the GOAT, while critiscising Pacquaio as some bum, and giving him no praise at all.......

[VERILY]

Doesn't matter. The people here aren't immune to what I was talking about just because they follow boxing more closely than the general public.

Hence I stressed, "the most dispassionate and learned analysts here".

Just for a moment, you could put aside the aggrievement you feel over some quarters' negative regard for the Klitschkos and realize that this thread is just garbage and its sentiment deserves no support whatsoever.

[miron_lang]

Ernie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young and Ken Norton would all go 3-0 againts
Purity, Brewster and Corrie Sanders.


WTF?

[The_Expert]

Ernie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young and Ken Norton would all go 3-0 againts
Purity, Brewster and Corrie Sanders.


WTF?

Based on what???