Cotto has ducked everyone at 154.

[jrosales13]

Really, I'm more intrigued in the Cotto-Margarito fight then I am in Floyd-Ortiz and Pac-JMM.

Reasons are because of their history, the controversy, and honestly I don't know who will win that fight. I'm pretty confident, damn near sure that Floyd and Pac will win their fights and win them going away. But, I don't have the slightest idea who will win Cotto-Marg. I keep going back and forth.

[chiguy91]

mayorga was a clear waste of time, but this margs rematch is an okay fight for him to take. margs is considered a ranked jmw now and this fight has a past to it. after it, we'll see what happens and from there you can start wondering this.

[Barry Halls]

So what is it? He is fighting reasonable fights GIVEN his previous tough fights, and so he gets a pass. That sounds like not fighting the best. The only point I am making is that everyone at some point avoids fighting the best fighters. He could have fought Pwill at 154 prior to Pwill's loss, Martinez, or even Canelo. I'm just saying that all this ducking and cherrypicking talk is getting silly. Am I super pissed about Cotto's recent picks...Not really. I AM aggravated that everyone only sees what they want to see and not the truth.

He should have fought Paul Williams when? When he was booked to fight Cintron? When HBO worked hard for a Pwill - Martinez 2?

Martinez the lineal mw champ?

Canelo? You think his team would've let him anywhere near Cotto? Look at who hes still fighting.

[supRa]

******.

Hes had one defense, and will be rematching a guy who beat the crap out of him next.

Hes not had the chance to duck anyone yet.

this ...

[Barry Halls]

Really, I'm more intrigued in the Cotto-Margarito fight then I am in Floyd-Ortiz and Pac-JMM.

Reasons are because of their history, the controversy, and honestly I don't know who will win that fight. I'm pretty confident, damn near sure that Floyd and Pac will win their fights and win them going away. But, I don't have the slightest idea who will win Cotto-Marg. I keep going back and forth.

This is on paper FOTY for me in terms of getting hyped.
Wlad haye had the potential, but i always new Haye would just be timid and horrible.

[Barry Halls]

The point of this thread is to show that Cotto isn't this invincible champ that always fights the best. There are WAY too many threads about how awesome Cotto is right now.

how awesome cotto is now? I can't remember seeing one such thread.

[jrosales13]

What I don't understand is that people are asking for Cotto to fight Martinez...OK fine...But, if the fight takes place how much criticism does Martinez deserves for picking "half dead fighter"? Martinez words on Cotto. Damn near calling him a shot fighter.

Because, wouldn't that mean Martinez is cherry picking? I mean if we can call Cotto-Foreman and Cotto-Margarito cherry picking. Then we damn sure can call Martinez-Cotto cherry picking on Martinez favor.

[jjbj2]

Mayorga fight is the work of Bob, and his shady dealings.
With that said, i think it was good for Cotto getting another easy fight. I think he needed it.
Basically a confidence booster / tuneup.

It wasn't a shady dealing. Bob Arum wanted to know how much of a PPV attraction Cotto was. Remember when Cotto fought Foreman it was a free program on HBO. Also, this was a confidence booster for Arum and Cotto that even though the match was questionable especially against an over the hill Mayorga it still managed to garner 250,000 PPV buys. That is exceptional considering the opponent and where Cotto was in his career.

Cotto vs Margarito is going to make at least a guaranteed 500K buys just from Puerto Rican fanbase and whoever else from the Mexican fanbase. I won't be surprised if it did 1M buys and this should happen for the good of boxing as well. The people making up the other 500K buys will come from Filipinos, Asians, Whites, and Blacks in the U.S. who are fans of boxing.

Whoever is going to be making the marketing blitz for this one and the accompanying documentary should focus on:

1). The serious grudge between Cotto and Margarito.
2). They should explore Cotto's desire in avenging his loss from Margarito's questionable gloves.
3). They should explore Margarito's desire to get back as a world champion and erase any question about his gloves.
4). Appeal to everyone not just the Puerto Rican and Mexican fans. This fight is an exciting fight that everyone should watch. This should be marketed to everyone.

[ablindwatchmakr]

****** thread. He made one defense. He fought Yuri Foreman for the belt. And he made an optional and easy money defense match against Ricardo Mayorga. Now, he is facing the same boxer who made him take a knee. This second defense match is a grudge match. Seriously, this is a tough fight.

At least, Cotto made a wise financial move to make more money before facing a tough fighter. What about Chavez Jr. and Canelo both fighters have been milking their fans by fighting bums and no-hopers. Cotto is a better fighter than both of them.

They cherry pick too...Now someone is finally getting the point of the ****ing thread. Again, I already said that Margarito is justified to some degree, and I want to see that fight. But after Margarito he will have fought three times and how does his resume look at 154 after that? Is it really anything special? The point is not whether or not he needs warmups, or title defenses, or grudge matches, or whatever. The point is that he isn't ripping through the division like a bat out of hell the way Pac and Mayweather are supposedly required to do for their legitimacy. He is doing the same ****. How is this any better than Mayweather fighting Judah as his second fight at welterweight? If anything, Judah/Mayweather was more legit than Cotto/Mayorga. As far as Pacquiao goes, Cotto was his first ****ing fight at welterweight! Clottey was second! How is Cotto doing better than they are? How is it that people can ride his nuts all day long but can't see any shortcomings?

[Barry Halls]

of course people expect more out of a p4p #1/2 and ATG's and future hof'ers, than a unranked p4p, none ATG and probably not a future hof.

It's to be expected.