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  • Originally posted by Froghead99 View Post
    Dude, show me an article that says ethnic ********** are allowed to celebrate their religon, while Christians aren't in the UK.

    We already discussed the BS article you posted, and we already established NO SCHOOL HAS BANNED CROSSES and CRUCIFIXES, while allowing other religous symbols. It DIDN't HAPPEN, so why do you falsely keep repeating the same nonsense?

    All the article was about is a DRAFT from ONE AUTHORITY that FORGOT to add CROSSES and CRUCIFIXES into a document, NO SCHOOL ACTUALLY BANNED CROSSES WHILE ALLOWING OTHER RELIGOUS SYMBOLS. Okay?

    That article was about a DRAFT of an DOCUMENT, it was not about any school. No school banned crosses, aight? Notice, there is no mention of any school following this interpretation, because IT NEVER HAPPENED.

    Got it?
    Yes I got that. But that is the first article I came across. I'm not racist so don't have a ****** agenda. However, I do speak from experience as this happened in my school about 5 years ago. There were many complaints by parents but the decision was not overruled. This was a school where asians were a slight majority.

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    • Originally posted by Froghead99 View Post
      Dude, show me an article that says ethnic ********** are allowed to celebrate their religon, while Christians aren't in the UK.
      We already discussed the BS article you posted, and we already established NO SCHOOL HAS BANNED CROSSES and CRUCIFIXES, while allowing other religous symbols. It DIDN't HAPPEN, so why do you falsely keep repeating the same nonsense?

      All the article was about is a DRAFT from ONE AUTHORITY that FORGOT to add CROSSES and CRUCIFIXES into a document, NO SCHOOL ACTUALLY BANNED CROSSES WHILE ALLOWING OTHER RELIGOUS SYMBOLS. Okay?

      That article was about a DRAFT of an DOCUMENT, it was not about any school. No school banned crosses, aight? Notice, there is no mention of any school following this interpretation, because IT NEVER HAPPENED.

      Got it?
      Teenager banned from wearing Christian chastity ring at school
      By Luke Salkeld
      A 12-year-old girl has been banned from wearing a silver chastity ring at school.

      The item of ***ellery owned by Kioni Lansbury represents her intention to stay a ****** until she marries.
      But her school has deemed it potentially dangerous and against uniform rules.

      Kioni, who is a regular church-goer, was inspired to wear the ring by the American pop group the Jonas Brothers, who have all made pledges of celibacy.

      Purity rings are popular in America where organisers have persuaded a vast number of teenagers to abstain from sex.
      Kioni, of Ottery St Mary in Devon, said: 'Lots of girls sleep around. I want to keep myself pure.

      'Many of my friends want to get one. If people can wear head scarves, why can't I wear a ring?'

      Kioni, who will turn 13 later this month, added: 'The ideas behind the purity ring are something I believe in. I believe in Jesus and a lot of his teachings.
      'If you wait you know you're with someone who loves you.'
      She added that she would continue to wear the ring at school but remove it when appropriate. 'I will take it off if I think it's dangerous but I'm going to carry on wearing it.

      'I came across the whole purity ring thing after getting into the Jonas Brothers. I loved the music but then discovered what they stood for and it went from there.'

      Kioni was given the purity ring by her mother Sandra Holden last month.
      The 42-year-old said: 'I think she should be able to wear it. It is no different to religious symbols. She wants to save herself for when she's older and doesn't want to waste her innocence. She feels very strongly about this.'

      Kioni was banned from wearing the ring at The King's School in Ottery St Mary after a teaching assistant reported it to headteacher Faith Jarrett.
      Yesterday, Mrs Jarrett defended the ban and said: 'The ring would be extremely dangerous in PE, technology or science lessons.
      'I have told Kioni she can keep the ring in her bag. I'm quite happy for her to have it in school.'

      She added: 'It's great that young people have this commitment. I think purity rings are a great idea. But she should keep it in her pocket or purse - it would be a health and safety issue if she wears it on her hand.
      'It's not a case of being religious or anti-religious. We take the view that it's potentially dangerous.'

      In July last year, schoolgirl Lydia Playfoot, 16, lost a High Court battle to wear her chastity ring at school.
      The judge rejected her claim for equal rights with ****** pupils allowed to wear head scarves.
      Chastity and purity rings originated in America in the Nineties and became popular as a gift for parents to buy their children.
      Where in the world are you from Frog??

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      • Originally posted by Froghead99 View Post
        Dude, show me an article that says ethnic ********** are allowed to celebrate their religon, while Christians aren't in the UK.

        We already discussed the BS article you posted, and we already established NO SCHOOL HAS BANNED CROSSES and CRUCIFIXES, while allowing other religous symbols. It DIDN't HAPPEN, so why do you falsely keep repeating the same nonsense?

        All the article was about is a DRAFT from ONE AUTHORITY that FORGOT to add CROSSES and CRUCIFIXES into a document, NO SCHOOL ACTUALLY BANNED CROSSES WHILE ALLOWING OTHER RELIGOUS SYMBOLS. Okay?

        That article was about a DRAFT of an DOCUMENT, it was not about any school. No school banned crosses, aight? Notice, there is no mention of any school following this interpretation, because IT NEVER HAPPENED.

        Got it?
        Here is another, perhaps more convincing argument regarding the subject.
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...h-****les.html

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        • Originally posted by Jedi Vader View Post
          You have clearly missed the point and reverted to name calling.



          Does this happen in Britain towards ******s then Bro? Do we burn down Mosques then Bro??



          That is precisely the point that I'm making.
          Actually, yes, ******s and Asians are also targeting and beaten up in the UK. EDL types storm mosques in the Uk and beat them.

          But, its definitely not on the level of what you posted happens in Pakistan, at all. Two things. That's Pak on Pak violence, same race different religon, I honestly doubt anyone cares. And what, there's violence against ********** in a third world country? That is not surprising.

          And they have churches in Pakistan, its not banned as you suggested.

          Secondly, Pakistan is full of uneducated religious idiots, and its disgusting, but I have no idea how this justifies racism in the UK, its a bit ****** to suggest what happens in Pakistan is justification for racism in the UK.

          You ******ed rationale would be like saying those Pakistanis are justified in doing what they did, because Christian Serbs ethnically cleansed Bosnian ******s, therefore Pakistanis are right to oppress their Christian minority.

          No that is pretty much the height of ******ity.

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          • School ban for crosses but not ****** lockets

            Schools have been told that they should ban crosses and crucifixes, but allow ****** children to wear symbols, even though they are not compulsory.



            ***ellery in general should be forbidden, although there are "exceptional circumstances" where schools need to be sensitive towards those from other faiths, according to draft guidance sent out by one local education authority.

            These are outlined as: rakhi, a cotton bracelet worn by Hindus; kara, a metal bracelet that is put on the arms of Sikh children when they are young and is impossible to remove; and taweez, religious lockets worn by some ****** pupils on a string around the neck, arm or stomach. The latter item is not regarded as compulsory.

            The document, sent out in Croydon, Surrey, makes no mention under "exceptional circumstances" of Christian symbols such as crosses or the chastity rings that some teenagers choose to wear.

            It was condemned as another example of an emerging "double standard" in British society, where the wishes of some faiths are accommodated while Christian traditions are disregarded.

            Andrea Minichiello Williams, the public policy director of the Lawyers' Christian Fellowship, said: "We have had numerous examples recently of where the rights of some faith groups are tolerated but the rights of others, generally Christians, are not. This guidance seems to be advising all schools to operate along the same lines.

            "You end up with something that is inequitable and comes across as double standards. I think it is a consequence of the combination of the secular agenda and the human rights agenda. Where rights are in competition, some rights win out. So we have a situation where gay rights trump Christian rights and in some areas, ****** rights seem to be paramount."

            David Willetts, the shadow education secretary, said: "I don't think the people who write these reports understand how much resentment they generate by their clumsy attempts to respect every religion other than Christianity."

            The guidance from Croydon raises similar issues to those prompted by the case of Lydia Playfoot, the Christian schoolgirl banned by Millais School, in Horsham, West Sussex, from wearing a purity ring. The 16-year-old is now taking the school, which allows ****** and Sikh pupils to wear headscarves, trousers and kara bracelets, to the High Court for breaching her human rights.

            It also echoes last year's row over whether Nadia Eweida, a British Airways employee, should have been allowed openly to wear a cross at work. The airline eventually dropped its ban after criticism.

            Department for Education and Skills guidance on school uniform policy requires schools to be sensitive and considerate towards the culture, race and religion of all their pupils.

            It does, however, give them the right to ban ****** girls from wearing full face veils, following a High Court decision in favour of a school in Buckinghamshire which refused a 12-year-old pupil permission to wear a niqab.

            In a statement, Croydon Council initially said that the guidelines, issued by the area's Standing Advisory Committee for Religious Education, did not mention Christianity because "it is not compulsory to wear a cross, it is a personal preference and it can be taken off". It said that while the taweez was "not a compulsory item in all branches if Islam, some branches feel that it is, which is why it appears in the guidance".

            When asked to clarify which branches of Islam regard the taweez as compulsory, a spokesman then said that the "purely advisory" guidance was a "working document" that was being updated and likely to change.

            A final draft will be presented to the committee next month.

            A document issued by the ****** Council of Britain earlier this year, which called on schools to give special treatment to ****** pupils, said that taweez amulets have religious significance for those who wear them and should not be considered as ***ellery. It said schools should allow
            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...*-lockets.html

            Do you want me to keep finding my proof?????
            Last edited by Jedi Vader; 07-29-2011, 11:58 AM.

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            • This ia a BS article about a kid who can't wear ***ellery in PE, tech and science beacuse it breaches health and safety.

              It has nothing to do with what region of the UK thinks what of Khan. This is so off-topic its unbelievable

              Teenager banned from wearing Christian chastity ring at school
              By Luke Salkeld
              A 12-year-old girl has been banned from wearing a silver chastity ring at school.

              The item of ***ellery owned by Kioni Lansbury represents her intention to stay a ****** until she marries.
              But her school has deemed it potentially dangerous and against uniform rules.

              Kioni, who is a regular church-goer, was inspired to wear the ring by the American pop group the Jonas Brothers, who have all made pledges of celibacy.

              Purity rings are popular in America where organisers have persuaded a vast number of teenagers to abstain from sex.
              Kioni, of Ottery St Mary in Devon, said: 'Lots of girls sleep around. I want to keep myself pure.

              'Many of my friends want to get one. If people can wear head scarves, why can't I wear a ring?'

              Kioni, who will turn 13 later this month, added: 'The ideas behind the purity ring are something I believe in. I believe in Jesus and a lot of his teachings.
              'If you wait you know you're with someone who loves you.'
              She added that she would continue to wear the ring at school but remove it when appropriate. 'I will take it off if I think it's dangerous but I'm going to carry on wearing it.

              'I came across the whole purity ring thing after getting into the Jonas Brothers. I loved the music but then discovered what they stood for and it went from there.'

              Kioni was given the purity ring by her mother Sandra Holden last month.
              The 42-year-old said: 'I think she should be able to wear it. It is no different to religious symbols. She wants to save herself for when she's older and doesn't want to waste her innocence. She feels very strongly about this.'

              Kioni was banned from wearing the ring at The King's School in Ottery St Mary after a teaching assistant reported it to headteacher Faith Jarrett.
              Yesterday, Mrs Jarrett defended the ban and said: 'The ring would be extremely dangerous in PE, technology or science lessons.
              'I have told Kioni she can keep the ring in her bag. I'm quite happy for her to have it in school.'

              She added: 'It's great that young people have this commitment. I think purity rings are a great idea. But she should keep it in her pocket or purse - it would be a health and safety issue if she wears it on her hand.
              'It's not a case of being religious or anti-religious. We take the view that it's potentially dangerous.'

              In July last year, schoolgirl Lydia Playfoot, 16, lost a High Court battle to wear her chastity ring at school.
              The judge rejected her claim for equal rights with ****** pupils allowed to wear head scarves.
              Chastity and purity rings originated in America in the Nineties and became popular as a gift for parents to buy their children.

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              • Originally posted by Froghead99 View Post
                Actually, yes, ******s and Asians are also targeting and beaten up in the UK. EDL types storm mosques in the Uk and beat them.

                But, its definitely not on the level of what you posted happens in Pakistan, at all. Two things. That's Pak on Pak violence, same race different religon, I honestly doubt anyone cares. And what, there's violence against ********** in a third world country? That is not surprising.

                And they have churches in Pakistan, its not banned as you suggested.

                Secondly, Pakistan is full of uneducated religious idiots, and its disgusting, but I have no idea how this justifies racism in the UK, its a bit ****** to suggest what happens in Pakistan is justification for racism in the UK.

                You ******ed rationale would be like saying those Pakistanis are justified in doing what they did, because Christian Serbs ethnically cleansed Bosnian ******s, therefore Pakistanis are right to oppress their Christian minority.

                No that is pretty much the height of ******ity.
                Nothing justifies racism in any country. But ******s are just as racist as whites, if not more so in many cases. Why do you ignore this?

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                • Originally posted by Froghead99 View Post
                  Actually, yes, ******s and Asians are also targeting and beaten up in the UK. EDL types storm mosques in the Uk and beat them.

                  But, its definitely not on the level of what you posted happens in Pakistan, at all. Two things. That's Pak on Pak violence, same race different religon, I honestly doubt anyone cares. And what, there's violence against ********** in a third world country? That is not surprising.

                  And they have churches in Pakistan, its not banned as you suggested.

                  Secondly, Pakistan is full of uneducated religious idiots, and its disgusting, but I have no idea how this justifies racism in the UK, its a bit ****** to suggest what happens in Pakistan is justification for racism in the UK.

                  You ******ed rationale would be like saying those Pakistanis are justified in doing what they did, because Christian Serbs ethnically cleansed Bosnian ******s, therefore Pakistanis are right to oppress their Christian minority.

                  No that is pretty much the height of ******ity.
                  They have Churches in Pakistan but not to the extent of the amount of Mosques in Britain.

                  Show me in my posts where I have tried to justify any violence or racism to Asians????

                  Also, stop the name calling and debate like an Adult.
                  Last edited by Jedi Vader; 07-29-2011, 11:56 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by DET. IRONSIDE View Post
                    This ia a BS article about a kid who can't wear ***ellery in PE, tech and science beacuse it breaches health and safety.

                    It has nothing to do with what region of the UK thinks what of Khan. This is so off-topic its unbelievable
                    Correct Bro but the Frog is asking for evidence or proof so I'm providing it, regardless of its ******ity.

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                    • Originally posted by DET. IRONSIDE View Post
                      This ia a BS article about a kid who can't wear ***ellery in PE, tech and science beacuse it breaches health and safety.

                      It has nothing to do with what region of the UK thinks what of Khan. This is so off-topic its unbelievable
                      The article I provided is valid IMO though. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...h-****les.html

                      The obvious counter argument is predictable: Sikh law mandates wearing ****les. Arguing this would be clutching at straws, I see no reason why, in the interests of health and safety, Sikhs should be subject to different rules.
                      Last edited by stefl14; 07-29-2011, 12:00 PM.

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