Why Ruiz Fans Notice Certain Things.

[jabsRstiff]

Rocko.....

You should consider writing a letter of support to the always put-upon Norman Stone.
He loves Johnny almost as much as you love Johnny......

He'll write you back. Something like...
"Johnny don't need no help from some ****sucker nerd like you. **** off."

[Rocko]

Using ad hominem now huh?
Ummm, OK.

Professor?
I see you never attended college.
No thanx.
I don't qualify in the buffoonery department.
You might though.


Who would want to watch something they don't like?
I don't know?
Since you are one of the self-proclaimed weirdoes that does that, you tell me.

Sigh!
As I said before, don't like?
Don't watch.

Too profound for you?

Not boxing?
Ah Heh! Heh! Heh!
Ummmmmm, how come it not be boxing when Ruiz does it but it sho don be boxing when yo boy Ali don did it? Mmmmmmm?


Nady does what? Enforce rules?
Excuse a me but:

Sure, sure! Uhuh! uhhuh! Sure!

Like he enforced them in the recent Williams Vitali fight right?

Say what?

Skill?

English is obviously not your native tongue is it?
Look up the word in the dictionary and memorize its meaning. Otherwise you will continue to disgorge what the more knowledgeable on this site consider ignorance-derived drivel.



You know amigo. the more you try to act educated the more you remind me of a famous Spanish saying that goes like a so.

"El mono aunque lo vistan de seda, mono se queda."

BTW

I don't see you blaming the "refs" for not enforcing the rules in other fights. Ummmmm, why?

Also, I found a number of basic grammatical errors in your writing that I could very easily focus on. But since that is not the purpose of this forum, I won't.

[marvdave]

I am speaking clear basic conversational English.
So I cannot make it any simpler for you than I have done in my previoius explanations. If indeed you are having difficulty following my line of clear reasoning, then perhaps it is a waste of time for you to read what I am saying.

By your writing I can see that you are not totally illiterate.
Certainly not a full-fledged ****** although there are borderline cases which are hard to categorize.

All I can say, actually, is that perhaps you are trying to read above your present level and this is causing the incomprehension you are constantly complaining about.

I suggest that perhaps it is better for you to be kind to yourself and spare yourself the frustration and the waste of your valuable time.

I don't understand

[jabsRstiff]

Using ad hominem now huh?
Ummm, OK.

Professor?
I see you never attended college.
No thanx.
I don't qualify in the buffoonery department.
You might though.


Who would want to watch something they don't like?
I don't know?
Since you are one of the self-proclaimed weirdoes that does that, you tell me.

Sigh!
As I said before, don't like?
Don't watch.

Too profound for you?

Not boxing?
Ah Heh! Heh! Heh!
Ummmmmm, how come it not be boxing when Ruiz does it but it sho don be boxing when yo boy Ali don did it? Mmmmmmm?


Nady does what? Enforce rules?
Excuse a me but:

Sure, sure! Uhuh! uhhuh! Sure!

Like he enforced them in the recent Williams Vitali fight right?

Say what?

Skill?

English is obviously not your native tongue is it?
Look up the word in the dictionary and memorize its meaning. Otherwise you will continue to disgorge what the more knowledgeable on this site consider ignorance-derived drivel.



You know amigo. the more you try to act educated the more you remind me of a famous Spanish saying that goes like a so.

"El mono aunque lo vistan de seda, mono se queda."

BTW

I don't see you blaming the "refs" for not enforcing the rules in other fights. Ummmmm, why?

Also, I found a number of basic grammatical errors in your writing that I could very easily focus on. But since that is not the purpose of this forum, I won't.

When I read this - THE FIRST TIME - I thought about how much of a rambling psychotic you are, Rocko.

Now that you've repeated it, I really hope you are never around children. You are dangerous.

[Nautilus]

Using ad hominem now huh?

Also, I found a number of basic grammatical errors in your writing that I could very easily focus on. But since that is not the purpose of this forum, I won't.

You are the one who started the personal (ad hominem) attack on non-Ruiz fans.

Your arguments should focus on the analysis of logic and not on the analysis of grammar.

[Rocko]

Obviously you either know absolutely NOTHING about boxing or else are handicapped in a way that I am not fully aware of yet.

Otherwise you would not make such an ignorant statement as you just have.

Evertyone even minimally familiarized with boxing knows that blocking and slipping are legal tactics whie the tactics that your boy Vitalis was using are not.

Holding behind the neck and pulling a fighter down so that his legal punches go low is not.

Neither is trying to hit a fighter who is clearly down as Vitali tried to do legal.

Neither is hitting behind the head and pushing as Vitali did.

Why such a big fella like Vitali who is clearly outclassing his opponent thinks he needs to fight dirty is waayyy beyond me.

But even more disturbing is why a ref would think that such a big fella who is clearly outclassing his opponent needs extra ref assistance.

BTW

If you don't agree thatr what I am pointing out were violations then you agree with everything Vitali and Nady did.

Actually, that you defend such clear violations by a Vitali and a Nady is not unexpected.

To me it comes across as the "My-country-right-or-wrong but-my-country" bs in a fight ring microcosm.

Also, your last statement is nonsensical.

[Nautilus]

Obviously you either know absolutely NOTHING about boxing or else are handicapped in a way that I am not fully aware of yet.

Otherwise you would not make such an ignorant statement as you just have.

Evertyone even minimally familiarized with boxing knows that blocking and slipping are legal tactics whie the tactics that your boy Vitalis was using are not.

Holding behind the neck and pulling a fighter down so that his legal punches go low is not.

Neither is trying to hit a fighter who is clearly down as Vitali tried to do legal.

Neither is hitting behind the head and pushing as Vitali did.

Why such a big fella like Vitali who is clearly outclassing his opponent thinks he needs to fight dirty is waayyy beyond me.

But even more disturbing is why a ref would think that such a big fella who is clearly outclassing his opponent needs extra ref assistance.

BTW

If you don't agree thatr what I am pointing out were violations then you agree with everything Vitali and Nady did.

Actually, that you defend such clear violations by a Vitali and a Nady is not unexpected.

To me it comes across as the "My-country-right-or-wrong but-my-country" bs in a fight ring microcosm.

Also, your last statement is nonsensical.

Don't proclaim this, prove this.

You clearly persist with your ugly personal attack.

Please provide actual quoted examples and not your made up assumptions about what people think.

Don't I know you?

[Rocko]

My! My! My!
Aren't we a bit feisty today!
Let me clarify the issue in an effort to bring you back to reality assuming that you have not gone too far over the edge and are still capable of at least a little basic cogent reasoning.

Right now, my friend, you are at a Ruiz fan forum.

I will assume that you know this and knew it when you decided to participate here. After all, it is prominently posted and anyone coming here can readily see that this forum has the Ruiz name prominently displayed for all visitors to clearly see.

Now, since this is a Ruiz forum specifically set up for Ruiz fans, what should you expect to find? Hmmmmm? Anti Ruiz comments predominating? Is that what you would expect to find on any other fighter's forum? Come now, be honest with yourself and give this some thought compadre.

In any case, perhaps I should clear things up a bit for you so that the mental fog caused by your anti-Ruiz rage can lift a little and you can see perhaps a glimmer of some much-needed light.

Personally, I refrain from participating in fan forums of boxers that I strongly disapprove of. You see, common decency requires that I refrain from going to that site with the sole purpose of degrading boxer. Why? Well, because at that site I will meet people who strongly disagree with my strong dislike and will contradict what I say.

Now, here is where insanity might come in if we are not careful.

Let's suppose that I did visit such a site and I ran across positive comments about that boxer from that boxer's fans?
and I began taking offense and began demanding that such comments not be made.

Then, of course, if I am unceremoniously categorized as a certifiable lunatic, I couldn't blame the person for thinking such a thing. After all, normal people expect these things at a fan site. Normal people either don't visit such sites if they don't wish to see such normal things, or else they put up or shut up.

What normal people refrain from doing, bon vivant, is going to Larry Holmes sites, for instance, for the specific purpose of badmouthing Larry Holmes in front of Larry Holmes fans and then indecently demanding that Larry Holmes fans not defend Larry Holmes but that they keep their godamn mouths shut at the Larry Holmes site.

That's what normal people don't do.
Hope that helps.

BTW

Just because a person uses cogent reasoning doesn't mean that the person is claiming to be a logician.



Also, please speak English.
Their is no such adverb as "vomitous".

And no, I never got a "D"
I aced all my classes.
Sorry!

[Nautilus]

My! My! My!
Aren't we a bit feisty today!

In any case, perhaps I should clear things up a bit for you so that the mental fog caused by your anti-Ruiz rage can lift a little and you can see perhaps a glimmer of some much-needed light.


Now, here is where insanity might come in if we are not careful.


Then, of course, if I am unceremoniously categorized as a certifiable lunatic, I couldn't blame the person for thinking such a thing.


BTW

Just because a person uses cogent reasoning doesn't mean that the person is claiming to be a logician.

Your reasoning boils down to an ugly personal attack littered with wordy allusions.

Your reasoning is therefore not cogent by any means.

You have been here before. Who are you? Are you "Dr" Cynical?









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(ha-ha, it is fun; I will come back here in couple of hours)

[scap]

There is a Larry Holmes site, included in that site are forums for Larry Holmes...please give me the url to this...if it exists.