Why Ruiz Fans Notice Certain Things.

[Rocko]

Ruiz fans are just like any other people.
They use inductive and deductive reasoning to reach logical conclusions.

For those who might perhaps be unfamiliar with these methods:

Deductive reasoning is when you make a generalization about something and base your conclusion about something on that generalization.

Here is an example:

A longer reach provides distance fighting advantage.
Joe has the longer reach.
Joe has a distance fighting advantage.



Inductive reasoning is different in that it relies on observation of patterns. Patterns being a repetition of events. Then a generalization or conclusion is reached.

Here is an example:

The ref permitted one fighter to hit the other while the other was down.
The ref then permitted one fighter to hit the other behind the head.

The ref repeatedly warns only one fighter.

Conclusion or inductive leap:

This is biased ref.


Now this is the well-known and accepted way in which conclusions are reached in logic and in the sciences as well.


Unfortunately, when Ruiz fans use these established reasoning methods, some anti-Ruiz say that Ruiz fans are being illogical.

Instead of striving to explain the su****ious behavior that causes Ruiz fans to take notice, these Anti Ruiz fans choose to criticize them for noticing the su****ious behavior in the first place!!!!


In short, they take umbrage not really with the issues involved. They are actually taking umbrage with the principles of reasonung itself.

Which speaks volumes about the intellectual level at which some anti-Ruiz fans are functioning.


BTW

A person wishing not to be suspected must not act su****iously.
Otherwise su****ion will arise concerning the su****ious behavior.

[WillieW]

Ruiz has fans? Where?

[WillieW]

Ok, I found one. Here he is, most likely the only true Ruiz fan. He lives in Takoma with his mother and works at the local 7-11. Here he is.........Barney.

[jabsRstiff]

Ruiz fans are just like any other people.
They use inductive and deductive reasoning to reach logical conclusions.

For those who might perhaps be unfamiliar with these methods:

Deductive reasoning is when you make a generalization about something and base your conclusion about something on that generalization.

Here is an example:

A longer reach provides distance fighting advantage.
Joe has the longer reach.
Joe has a distance fighting advantage.



Inductive reasoning is different in that it relies on observation of patterns. Patterns being a repetition of events. Then a generalization or conclusion is reached.

Here is an example:

The ref permitted one fighter to hit the other while the other was down.
The ref then permitted one fighter to hit the other behind the head.

The ref repeatedly warns only one fighter.

Conclusion or inductive leap:

This is biased ref.


Now this is the well-known and accepted way in which conclusions are reached in logic and in the sciences as well.


Unfortunately, when Ruiz fans use these established reasoning methods, some anti-Ruiz say that Ruiz fans are being illogical.

Instead of striving to explain the su****ious behavior that causes Ruiz fans to take notice, these Anti Ruiz fans choose to criticize them for noticing the su****ious behavior in the first place!!!!


In short, they take umbrage not really with the issues involved. They are actually taking umbrage with the principles of reasonung itself.

Which speaks volumes about the intellectual level at which some anti-Ruiz fans are functioning.


BTW

A person wishing not to be suspected must not act su****iously.
Otherwise su****ion will arise concerning the su****ious behavior.

Wow......a Ruiz defender. That's bad enough.....but throw in an overly wordy, windbagged post....& you have yourself a real loser of a boxing forum poster.
Rocko, you sucko.

[pinaldino]

man that's strange what you are doing here....you take the most horrible guy to watch-for us on this forum at least-and you defend himself by saying some of us are ******.
and you say it in a very pretentious way
not the best way to enter the forum IMO but you do what you want

[jabsRstiff]

man that's strange what you are doing here....you take the most horrible guy to watch-for us on this forum at least-and you defend himself by saying some of us are ******.
and you say it in a very pretentious way
not the best way to enter the forum IMO but you do what you want

This is for all of the Rocko's & NichtGeflechten's of the internet boxing world :


Do you know how ****** you come across, trying to wow people on here with your verbal "skills" ?
Do you understand what we are discussing here ? We are discussing two guys getting together & beating the **** out of each other with their fists, for money. We hope, that when they do accomplish this, that they do it well.

Now, most of us in here understand what you're saying, complex & bloated as it is.
Don't worry, you're not talking above our heads.

Basically, talking about this sport like you do (flexing your brain power) is just a big ol' waste of ****in' time.

You'd get laughed out of most boxing circles with your eggheadedness....if not bitchslapped first.

[Rocko]

Anyone can think himself qualified enough for practically anything.
It happens all the time at the funny farms.

Ruiz fans don't make the claims you say.
So your examples are nothing more than perfect examples of lies.

I suggest that you stop using straw man arguments.
Be honest in your statements.
It makes for credibility.

BTW
Well known by anyone familiar with basic reasoning.



About your tongue-in-cheek accusation that I am confusing deduction with induction--why not explain yourself so I can be of help.

Also, I don't need an article to teach me such a basic subject.
But thanx anyway.
Actually, to me it is quite patent that you misunderstood not only my explanation but the article you are referring to as well.

[Boxer2005]

Anyone can think himself qualified enough for practically anything.
It happens all the time at the funny farms.

Ruiz fans don't make the claims you say.
So your examples are nothing more than perfect examples of lies.

I suggest that you stop using straw man arguments.
Be honest in your statements.
It makes for credibility.

BTW
Well known by anyone familiar with basic reasoning.



About your tongue-in-cheek accusation that I am confusing deduction with induction--why not explain yourself so I can be of help.

Also, I don't need an article to teach me such a basic subject.
But thanx anyway.
Actually, to me it is quite patent that you misunderstood not only my explanation but the article you are referring to as well.

Well said..

[jabsRstiff]

Anyone can think himself qualified enough for practically anything.
It happens all the time at the funny farms.

Ruiz fans don't make the claims you say.
So your examples are nothing more than perfect examples of lies.

I suggest that you stop using straw man arguments.
Be honest in your statements.
It makes for credibility.

BTW
Well known by anyone familiar with basic reasoning.



About your tongue-in-cheek accusation that I am confusing deduction with induction--why not explain yourself so I can be of help.

Also, I don't need an article to teach me such a basic subject.
But thanx anyway.
Actually, to me it is quite patent that you misunderstood not only my explanation but the article you are referring to as well.

Actually, buddy....I don't care about what you're trying to say.
After all, the subject is Ruiz.

I'm concerned about how you're saying it.....& how pathetic it is.
You're a pseudo-intellectual.
Take your overblown theories to somewhere else besides a BOXING forum.

You're ridiculous.

[Rocko]

Using ad hominem now huh?
Ummm, OK.

Professor?
I see you never attended college.
No thanx.
I don't qualify in the buffoonery department.
You might though.


Who would want to watch something they don't like?
I don't know?
Since you are one of the self-proclaimed weirdoes that does that, you tell me.

Sigh!
As I said before, don't like?
Don't watch.

Too profound for you?

Not boxing?
Ah Heh! Heh! Heh!
Ummmmmm, how come it not be boxing when Ruiz does it but it sho don be boxing when yo boy Ali don did it? Mmmmmmm?


Nady does what? Enforce rules?
Excuse a me but:

Sure, sure! Uhuh! uhhuh! Sure!

Like he enforced them in the recent Williams Vitali fight right?

Say what?

Skill?

English is obviously not your native tongue is it?
Look up the word in the dictionary and memorize its meaning. Otherwise you will continue to disgorge what the more knowledgeable on this site consider ignorance-derived drivel.



You know amigo. the more you try to act educated the more you remind me of a famous Spanish saying that goes like a so.

"El mono aunque lo vistan de seda, mono se queda."

BTW

I don't see you blaming the "refs" for not enforcing the rules in other fights. Ummmmm, why?

Also, I found a number of basic grammatical errors in your writing that I could very easily focus on. But since that is not the purpose of this forum, I won't.