Why do people moan about Wlad never having beaten a HOF fighter...

[Larry the boss]

The Klitschkos DOMINATE everyone and stop potential star careers in their tracks: excellent fighters like Calvin Brock and Sultan Ibragimov were derailed by Klitschko domination. Fighters who would have been champs (and Sultan actually was a champ) in a Klitschko-less era, likely trading belts around like baseball cards as often seen in past eras. The K-Bros DOMINATE in a way that hasn't been seen before, so this HOF argument doesn't hold up. A bunch of talented but not dominant guys trading belts around (past) versus two guys who destroy everyone (present): the K-Bros are creating a new paradigm for HW supremacy that will likely never be seen again.

lmfao..................

[AKATheMack]

I can't actually think of a single champion who beat a HOF fighter who had already been inducted into the HOF at the time they fought them. Maybe someone could enlighten me? Not even Foreman was inducted until 2003 despite having retired in the seventies. Tyson wasn't HOF when Lewis beat him. Holyfield still isn't. Holmes wasn't HOF when Tyson knocked him out. It's a ****** criterion to measure people against.

Even if you base it on future HOFers most fighters dont beat the version that ends up getting inducted. Mike Tyson is a HOFer, but nobody was thinking about the version who got starched by Lewis when they voted.

[Larry the boss]

The people bashing Wladimir Klitschko and his achievements are losers.

The worst Wlad-hater since the win over Haye is Joseph Benedetti who posts here as JAB5239.

Joseph Benedetti is listed as 5'10" and 245 pounds, and has a record of 0-1 in MMA, the same as Charlie Zellenoff in boxing. However, Joseph's loss was in the amateurs, Charlie's was in the pros.

Is Joseph ENVIOUS of Wladimir who is tall, handsome, rich and a world champion as a fighter, while Joseph is short, ugly, poor, and a failure as a fighter?

Is that why Joseph bashes and discredits Wladimir every day in this forum?


Jealousy is a b1tch!

why are you posting his personal buisness cause he dislikes the klits??sad

[Larry the boss]

The people bashing Wladimir Klitschko and his achievements are losers.

The worst Wlad-hater since the win over Haye is Joseph Benedetti who posts here as JAB5239.

Joseph Benedetti is listed as 5'10" and 245 pounds, and has a record of 0-1 in MMA, the same as Charlie Zellenoff in boxing. However, Joseph's loss was in the amateurs, Charlie's was in the pros.

Is Joseph ENVIOUS of Wladimir who is tall, handsome, rich and a world champion as a fighter, while Joseph is short, ugly, poor, and a failure as a fighter?

Is that why Joseph bashes and discredits Wladimir every day in this forum?


Jealousy is a b1tch!

His daddy is a Pig Ossifer, he will arrest you with no evidence next time you in NC, since arguing with no evidence is what the Benedetti family name means

Dont mess with his 0-1 record bro, the commision probably didnt clear him to improve his record to 0-2.

and 5"10 245 isnt fat, he is extreme ripped (lol).......sorry bad joke.

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And ya'll claim the klits are classy yet ya'll are trash..would the klits post something like this???

[AKATheMack]

And ya'll claim the klits are classy yet ya'll are trash..would the klits ost something like this???

Got Mayweather on the brain Larry.

[nomadman]

The Klitschkos DOMINATE everyone and stop potential star careers in their tracks: excellent fighters like Calvin Brock and Sultan Ibragimov were derailed by Klitschko domination. Fighters who would have been champs (and Sultan actually was a champ) in a Klitschko-less era, likely trading belts around like baseball cards as often seen in past eras. The K-Bros DOMINATE in a way that hasn't been seen before, so this HOF argument doesn't hold up. A bunch of talented but not dominant guys trading belts around (past) versus two guys who destroy everyone (present): the K-Bros are creating a new paradigm for HW supremacy that will likely never be seen again.

I wouldn't say Brock was an excellent fighter. Ibragimov was underrated though, and it's a shame he retired when he did. Very quick hands for a heavy and decent skills. Had he hung around he could have made quite a name for himself. But his choice to retire was his own, it wasn't forced upon him (though from what I hear it was most definitely the right choice as far as security of life was concerned).

[Larry the boss]

Got Mayweather on the brain Larry.

lol..naw my "p" fucked up on my keyboard big homie

[AKATheMack]

lol..naw my "p" fucked up on my keyboard big homie

I figured as much, you know I had to say something though when its you randomly posting OST in the middle of a sentence. Anyone else I would have let it slide.

[Welsh Jon]

And ya'll claim the klits are classy yet ya'll are trash..would the klits ost something like this???

I know. I actually like the Klits, but so many of their fans are idiots, it's turning me off them a bit.

And lay off JAB. Talk about boxing not your beef with another poster.

[nomadman]

I don't think Norton deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, but I do believe he's far greater than Chris Byrd.

Norton beat Ali, beat Jerry Quarry and had one of the greatest heavyweight fights of all time against Larry Holmes.

Byrd beat Vitali through injury and an Evander Holyfield that should have retired after the Ruiz trilogy.

Norton was better than Byrd. And Norton wasn't the best name on Ali's resume.

I personallly think Norton deserves every bit of his place in the HOF. He was a very fine fighter. Byrd doesn't have the achievements, but he's in a similar position relative to his era having beaten a number of very good fighters and been a former world title belt holder. Like I said, I don't think he'll be first ballot, but I suspect he's got a good chance to make it within the next twenty years.