Don't get me wrong guys I'm a huge boxing fan,but MMA is definately taking over the top spot remember people it's only 13 years old as a sportand look at how far it's come.Give it another 10 years and it will be a much bigger draw then boxing mark my words.
Is MMA getting bigger than boxing?
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Originally posted by registeredYou have no idea...Pride already won a long ****ing time ago...
If you're talking about "america" then maybe!...the ufc is garbage compared to the REAL mma orgs..
The ones featuring olympic athletes & sambo elites...Go to japan once in your life and you'll understand how different the mentality over there.. Do you know how many people are there, live to watch these Pride fc fights? Minimum 25 000 , MINIMUM!
The last Pride's gand prix had an attendance of 43 700 fans!
the saitama super arena is ****ing huge.
Guys like Mirko filipovic , Fedor emelianenko , Gomi , Wanderlei Silva are often stopped in the streets over there, because they're famous unlike in america. But who gives a ****?
MMA is evolving fast. America is another story.. MMA will never be an american sport anyway. It's an international sport. But unlike Soccer, it's banned in loads of countries.
That's still a major problem, but since the last 10 to 15 years, mma's popularity became even bigger..
The UFC and their ****ing retarted reality show "TUF" have both a very negative influence of the sport imo though. It's a shame that Pride fc will never be allowed in america.
They tried to have a show once in LA , at the staple center but couldn't because The US laws bans Stomps, soccer kicks, shoes, gis, knees to the head on a downed opponent and the ring.
Pride can only be seen on TV. And still! they sometimes censor the combats for the american audience!
when they aired the jackson vs UFC's liddell fight (in japan and under pride fc rules).
Liddell got demolished but the ending was cut , Fedor vs Fujita was also partly edited. (no kicks were shown).
It's bull**** and it proves that america is not ready for the real form of mma.
agree with you . damn UFC and UFC reality shows are frighteningly ******ed . but you really think the censors are worried about violence ? it s protectionism . the law protects a US product (ufc) from a japanese product (pride) . they did a good job of lobying .Comment
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Sadly, The ufc had 14 000..I say sadly cause the UFC ain't what mma is supposed to be and they hire no talents most of the time.Originally posted by enadeusMany people are now moving from boxing to MMA. I still feel however that MMA is better to watch for tv then boxing is for watching live.
Donald Trump said it himself, they filled 14,000 people for a ufc event, its getting harder and harder to do this for boxing. John Ruiz vs James Toney only sold 6,000 tickets in MSG.
Pride fc had 25 000 + people attendance for the jackson vs silva rematch.
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No. It takes just as much skills..Originally posted by NotoriousThugggI dont see whats so great about MMA anyways. It seems like it takes more skill to do boxing than MMA. Just IMO.
Google "russian sambo" please. Learn before talking...
These guys have practiced some of these disciplines since they were little kids. this isn't something you learn in a couple of month or even in 2 or 4 years of training.
Fedor emelianenko has been specialised in sambo since a long time..Also, You can't become a top bjj artist black belt with some training...It doesn't work that way..
The UFC used to have a pro BJJ artist called Frank Mir. And even He was a pure joke when compared to the BBJ elite , Antonio rodrigo nogueira. (brazilian fighter who started this discipline since he was a kid. He's one of Pride's best fighters).Comment
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I watch the UFC which is kinda like MMA. And no way is that skill. Sorry... it really depends a lot upon taking advantage of an opening/vulnerability of an opponent.
Originally posted by registeredNo. It takes just as much skills..
Google "russian sambo" please. Learn before talking...
These guys have practiced some of these disciplines since they were little kids. this isn't something you learn in a couple of month or even in 2 or 4 years of training.
Fedor emelianenko has been specialised in sambo since a long time..Also, You can't become a top bjj artist black belt with some training...It doesn't work that way..
The UFC used to have a pro BJJ artist called Frank Mir. And even He was a pure joke when compared to the BBJ elite , Antonio rodrigo nogueira. (brazilian fighter who started this discipline since he was a kid. He's one of Pride's best fighters).Comment
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The censors are forced to follow certain rules.Originally posted by tinoagree with you . damn UFC and UFC reality shows are frighteningly ******ed . but you really think the censors are worried about violence ? it s protectionism . the law protects a US product (ufc) from a japanese product (pride) . they did a good job of lobying .
in America, Pride events will never happen.
(stomps, soccer kicks, violent slams, knees to the head on the ground, and some other things are all strictly banned in the united states.)
The only way to have live pride events in america? follow UFC rules. meaning only elbows on the ground , a cage , no stomps, no soccer kicks etc... etc...
are the censors worried about violence? Who knows..But one thing I do know is that they'll chop off some scenes from televised pride events. They already did. I've seen some butchered fights before. But they don't have a choice. the pride events that you see free on tv are for the most part edited for the american public.Comment
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The ufc is garbage.Originally posted by NotoriousThugggI watch the UFC which is kinda like MMA. And no way is that skill. Sorry... it really depends a lot upon taking advantage of an opening/vulnerability of an opponent.
The only fighters worth seeing in this org are George saint Pierre and David Loiseau. (both canadians). These guys are wasting their time in the ufc.
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This is Pride fc
this is how a world champion sambo fighter fights under pride rules. (basically, a sambo artist allowed to use stomps, ground and pound, knees etc..) Fedor is a judo/sambo expert.
No one in the ufc fights like this..
Their champion arlovski , ufc's #1 was owned by Rizzo.
Rizzo entered pride fc 3 or 5 months ago and got killed in less than 2 minutes by sambo elite sergei kharitonov.Comment
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Originally posted by bfgWith the amount of exposure that MMA is receiving of late with the reality show on Spike and some televised matches, is MMA getting bigger than boxing? It seems like it is at least a fad, if not more while boxing seems to be waning...will MMA be bigger than boxing?
In a word...NOComment
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Originally posted by NotoriousThugggI dont see whats so great about MMA anyways. It seems like it takes more skill to do boxing than MMA. Just IMO.
No offense but that is because you're ignorant about the sport of mma it takes tons of cross training in all types of styles to even be be an above average fighter now in mma.Most top mma fighters train in boxing,kickboxing,bjj,and wrestling you gotta be an adaptable athlete in mma you can't just be a one discipline fighter anymore those days are over.Comment
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