Honest questions for the Cotto fans.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

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Hit me up sometime before the fight and maybe we can make a wager. It will be an exciting fight regardless of who wins.

If he beats him, it still won't take away my thought of Margo cheating the first time. It will all depend on how he does. IF, he destroys Cotto again the way he did, then I can give him props for the first time. Now I have a question for the MARGO stans; what will you say when Cotto stops margo this time? out of the two the one that has taken severe damage and shouldn't fight any more is Margo since Cotto has been fine for a while.

With that said, put your points up and bet me. I got Cotto b!tches...

I will bet with both of you, I just think at 154lbs, Marg will be even bigger and stronger than before.

[BostonGuy]

I have to say, I don't see this "re-invention" that Cotto has gone through. Let's take a look at what Cotto is and isn't.

He is:

A superb boxer
A bully
Great body puncher
Great amateur pedigree
A fighter with a great jab

He is not:

A fighter who fights well going backwards
A huge puncher at 15lbs
Big for the weight class
Good against pressure fighters
a Volume puncher


I think Cotto fans have fallen in love with Cotto all over again with what he APPEARS to have done against fighters like Ricardo Mayorga and Yuri foreman. One B level boxer with zero power and the other a way past his prime loud mouth who is a brawler at best.

Not taking any credit away from Cotto but his last 3 fights have been as un-impressive as Marg's last 2.

So let's not crown Manny Steward the greatest trainer in the world for what he has done with Cotto just yet. I see less movement from Cotto, less punch output and worse defense considering the amount of times he was hit vs Mayorga. Prime Cotto KO's that version of Mayorga in under 5 rounds.

Marg isn't much better either for the record, I just think what he does requires less athletic ability because Marg still knows how to come forward and **** it out with the best of them at 154lbs.

Cotto's last two opponents were cherry picked no doubt but that's the smart thing to do when a fighter is in the rebuilding stage of his career.

But let's look at Margarito:

Has been inactive
Suffered eye injury
In his last 3 fights, he was beaten convincingly and battered badly
In his win against Roberto Garcia, his punches lacked snap and power

Frankly I would be very surprised if Margarito was able to fight anywhere near his former self. I think he's 'shop worn' and will be very rusty against a guy who's been active and who's improved his style since their last outing and to think he's gonna go in there and just pick up where he left off is bold assumption.

In any event, that's what makes this fight interesting to boxing fans....

[LaMigra]

What IF.......

What if Margarito beats Cotto in the rematch? What will you say then, seriously.

I understand people hate Marg because of the wraps scandal and I understand that but what if in the rematch, Marg brutalizes Cotto once again?

Will the excuse be he is past it? Will the excuse be that maybe Marg somehow got another pair of loaded gloves in this fight?

What will Cotto's or Marg's legacy be after this if it happens?

Just a question.

I feel that an argument can be made for wraps regardless. Cotto could be that damaged from the 1st fight that he was never the same again even when fighting a clean Margarito again.

It just makes sense that if tony was using wraps for Shane he would have used them for Cotto who was not out of prime and was the favorite to beat Tony. Add to that, the pictures of his wraps post Cotto fight... and the object piercing through his wraps... and it's pretty conclusive to me.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I feel that an argument can be made for wraps regardless. Cotto could be that damaged from the 1st fight that he was never the same again even when fighting a clean Margarito again.

It just makes sense that if tony was using wraps for Shane he would have used them for Cotto who was not out of prime and was the favorite to beat Tony. Add to that, the pictures of his wraps post Cotto fight... and the object piercing through his wraps... and it's pretty conclusive to me.

The pic after the fight was not conclusive man, come on lol.

Look, I understand the logic and I don't dismiss it or disagree with it. At the end of the day it's just speculation though, no matter how strongly you feel about it.

I know you will disagree but Cotto's face looked as bad after Pacquaio than it did post Margarito. He bruises, swells and cuts much easier than most would like to admit.

[LaMigra]

The pic after the fight was not conclusive man, come on lol.

Look, I understand the logic and I don't dismiss it or disagree with it. At the end of the day it's just speculation though, no matter how strongly you feel about it.

I know you will disagree but Cotto's face looked as bad after Pacquaio than it did post Margarito. He bruises, swells and cuts much easier than most would like to admit.

He does swell up post Margarito... Still can be attributed to the damage suffered to his facial tissue etc.

[Lords]

I feel that if Margicheato wasn't loaded in there fight Cotto would of won a decision. The loaded gloves were taking a toll on Cotto and breaking him down. Margicheato couldn't even stun or knock Cotto down with a hard punch. Take those plasters out and Cotto would be able to take Margicheatos punches. Cotto is still the better boxer and quicker boxer out of the two. Cotto going to the body will be the differance in the fight and im pretty sure Steward will have a good game plan. Steward and Cotto have to know Margicheato is gonna push the fight and put presure on him so they will be training for that. Cotto will have to throw hard Jabs at him to try to contain Margicheato. If Margicheato beats Cotto then he beats him. Atleast we know it was a legit win and not cheated. I got Cotto winning the fight, breaking cheato down with body shots and finishing him off with a left hook to the jaw.

[120]

I will bet with both of you, I just think at 154lbs, Marg will be even bigger and stronger than before.

he can be as big as he wants to, Cotto will be bigger as well and Margo HAD the advantage in body at 147 since he was a huge WW. At SuperW that will be irrelevant. Cotto should box and rely on the jab and guess what will be in his aim? Margo's eye, the very same one that just went through surgery and won't be able to take that much damage regardless of the time. I said it before and I will say it again, this fight is BS, it shouldn't happen. Why? Because Margo is not healthy anymore and it will show up. When the fight is signed I'll hit u with a pm, we'll bet

[No-mas-tias]

@ 147 I had said Cotto would KO him but @ 154 IMO Marg's natural weight he beats Cotto. Cotto doesn't belong above 147 and hasn't looked that good @ 154, looks too slow.

[thebowtod]

its a damn shame too, if marg didn't cheat, he would have been huge. I honestly think that was playing throw his head during the shane mosley fight. Thats just me though

[MikeRo1972]

This is all speculation until margarito lands that first power shot flush to Cotto's face. Cotto's reaction will either be: A-Oh crap this ****er wasn't wearing plaster wrapped gloves or B-This cheating b!tch is toast.

Personally I think Cotto is back to his old form (in his head anyway) and has 2 fights to get over the jitters of being annihilated. Where as Margs just suffered an epic butt whooping. He's still fragile mentally. Furthermore with that freshly broken eye socket Margs will swell up as fast or faster than Cotto.

Should be an epic fight, and I see Cotto peppering that eye all night with jabs. Margs will have his moments of course as well... and I think rounds 8-12 are where he can steal the fight just like last time. 50/50 an I'll go with Cotto on skill, mental health, and physical health as well. Ultimately the question becomes can Marg's heart, strength, and size do it again. I'm hoping for a Cotto win in a classic so we can do it again in 2012.