Honest questions for the Cotto fans.

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  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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    #11
    Originally posted by p4p-champ
    As much as I'd like Cotto to avenge his brutal loss, I think Margacheato has him. Cotto just doesn't move well enough to avoid Margacheato all night and he simply isn't the fighter he used to be. However, this doesn't clear Margacheato from the cheating accusations of the original fight.
    Well it doesn't excuse him of what he was caught with against Mosley but the main argument of Cotto fans was that it was without a doubt he was cheating vs Cotto. If he loses, doesn't that clear him of those charges at least against Cotto?

    Originally posted by baya
    you know what i'm a say.
    Ya lo se compa....

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    • Nuurzhaelan
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      #12
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
      What IF.......

      What if Margarito beats Cotto in the rematch? What will you say then, seriously.

      I understand people hate Marg because of the wraps scandal and I understand that but what if in the rematch, Marg brutalizes Cotto once again?

      Will the excuse be he is past it? Will the excuse be that maybe Marg somehow got another pair of loaded gloves in this fight?

      What will Cotto's or Marg's legacy be after this if it happens?

      Just a question.
      That depends on performance. Of course, that is subjective. If Cotto is soundly defeated then it will be a large chunk of evidence that he was legitimately defeated the first time.

      As far as legacy for either fighter, that is a bit much for me to speculate upon. Your man would probably be largely redeemed and Cotto would probably lose a bit of prestige...depending on performance of each.

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      • boricuajr23
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        #13
        Originally posted by Precision
        I just hope Steward can give Cotto a very good gameplan to help him beat Margarito but it won't be easy.
        I watch the first fight over and over and IMO, if Cotto woulda clinched smartly every single time he had his back on the ropes, he woulda prevented all those inside punches and uppercuts from landing and might have came out with a decision. He just decided to trade and exchange and IMO, it cost him. My opinion though.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #14
          Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
          That depends on performance. Of course, that is subjective. If Cotto is soundly defeated then it will be a large chunk of evidence that he was legitimately defeated the first time.

          As far as legacy for either fighter, that is a bit much for me to speculate upon. Your man would probably be largely redeemed and Cotto would probably lose a bit of prestige...depending on performance of each.
          Marg is not my man, I am equally disgusted by his cheating.

          Originally posted by boricuajr23
          I watch the first fight over and over and IMO, if Cotto woulda clinched smartly every single time he had his back on the ropes, he woulda prevented all those inside punches and uppercuts from landing and might have came out with a decision. He just decided to trade and exchange and IMO, it cost him. My opinion though.
          This is the only adjustment I agree with. Good observation.

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          • JmH Reborn
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            #15
            Not all Cotto fans believe he cheated, although I don't fully believe he didn't without a shadow of a doubt.

            Ultimately, I like Margarito. He's a fookin' bad ass and I have no doubt that he was avoided by the big boys for a long time because he's a G who won't stop coming. He's a cheater and he may have cheated against Cotto in the past, however I think its all a moot point and water under the bridge. He paid the price by getting two ass whuppings and lost alot of money.

            I want Cotto to win because I'm a fan, but overall, I want it to be another classic fight, win or lose. If Cotto loses valiantly, it wouldn't hurt him one bit historically, as long as he makes it another thriller. What I really want honestly is for Cotto to go hard and get a win, and make a trilogy, because I want me a well-produced box set. But that's just me being greedy

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            • Rip Chudd
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              #16
              If Shane's son can beat Cotto again then he gets props for doing so. Even if I don't think he should be in the ring on account of the wraps.

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              • Hallaqsillaq
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                #17
                Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
                What IF.......

                What if Margarito beats Cotto in the rematch? What will you say then, seriously.

                I understand people hate Marg because of the wraps scandal and I understand that but what if in the rematch, Marg brutalizes Cotto once again?

                Will the excuse be he is past it? Will the excuse be that maybe Marg somehow got another pair of loaded gloves in this fight?

                What will Cotto's or Marg's legacy be after this if it happens?

                Just a question.
                Eat crow I guess...

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                • Pugilistic™
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boricuajr23
                  I watch the first fight over and over and IMO, if Cotto woulda clinched smartly every single time he had his back on the ropes, he woulda prevented all those inside punches and uppercuts from landing and might have came out with a decision. He just decided to trade and exchange and IMO, it cost him. My opinion though.
                  That's something Cotto can use to slow Margarito down yeah.

                  he needs to also keep Margarito in the center of the ring behind his jab.

                  If he ends up on the ropes, that's where Margarito is most dangerous.

                  Obviously all the above is easier said than done.

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                  • Walt Liquor
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by johnm
                    I just don't know about this fight.

                    Margarito didn't have plaster on his face. Cotto couldn't hurt him. You have to be able to hurt him to keep him off of you.
                    This.

                    Plus i think cotto's been looking like a shell of himself in tye last couple yrs

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                    • boricuajr23
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Precision
                      That's something Cotto can use to slow Margarito down yeah.

                      he needs to also keep Margarito in the center of the ring behind his jab.

                      If he ends up on the ropes, that's where Margarito is most dangerous.

                      Obviously all the above is easier said than done.
                      Yes, easier said than done but it can be done. The only problem is that Cotto doesnt do it as much in his fights. Mosley kept Margs in the center like you said and clinched quite often. That was enough I guess to prevent margs from doing anything. It will be very interesting though seeing how Cotto comes out in this fight and like you said, what Steward brings to the table.

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