Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko: Chisora is a Logical Choice To Fight

[beez721]

I never claimed Cobb was great, only more proven and experienced against seasoned fighters. He was ALSO TOP 10 RATED!!!

Try telling me again what makes Chisora worthy because everything you have said about him is conjecture, while everything I have pointed out is fact.

if cobb was rated in the ring top 10 then that era must have been even worse than this one. cobb was a dreadful fighter. he was slower than a heavybag and even guys like chisora would have beaten him imo

[Ravens Fan]

Considering how few fights he has had Helenius has fought some very good and experienced comp. I didn't realize how deep his resume was for being so small and wouldn't be against a fight against Wlad if he thought he was ready. I don't think he's ready, but at least he has earned a shot by beating some decent fighters.

As you already know I don't agree with Chisora as Wlad's next opponent. And I am just curious if you are alright with the rest of Wlad's resume? And one other question would you be alright with a Wlad-Chisora non title fight? Such as say Holmes-Marvis Frazier.

[JAB5239]

Who said you are a "blind hater?"

My point is not really about the Klitschkos. Boxing fans have an element that overrates the past generally. They are never comfortable with the present: this is the reason that someone like Lennox got derided when he was fighting, but now that he has been gone for awhile, he is great.

It will be the same with the K-Bros. Boxing fans never know what they have until it is gone.

There are people I'd rather see Wlad fight other than Chisora, but if he beats Fury I don't have a big problem with the idea, as Wlad owes him a fight anyway.

Wlad intends to fight for a long time yet and will get around to all worthy challengers. Vitali said today they want to continue fighting as a duo for two more years.

This I can agree with for the most part. My problem was when you made the comment "I guess Wlad should defend against ATG's like Randall "Tex" Cobb.". To me (my apologies if I was wrong) this sounded like you were defending Wlads choice of Chisora by deriding Holmes fight with Cobb. While neither will or would be looked at as even good fights, there is a difference.

[JAB5239]

As you already know I don't agree with Chisora as Wlad's next opponent. And I am just curious if you are alright with the rest of Wlad's resume? And one other question would you be alright with a Wlad-Chisora non title fight? Such as say Holmes-Marvis Frazier.

I wouldn't have any problem with Wlad fighting Chisora in a non-title fight. In fact I think it would be great if all champions did this when their era was weak or they had already run through the majority of top contenders.

As far as Wlads resume....I don't consider it very strong at all but that is really no fault of his own. He has taken on the best fighters and thats all a champion can really do.

[JAB5239]

if cobb was rated in the ring top 10 then that era must have been even worse than this one. cobb was a dreadful fighter. he was slower than a heavybag and even guys like chisora would have beaten him imo

Larry Holmes, Champion

1. Michael Dokes
2. Mike Weaver
3. Gerrie Coetzee
4. Renaldo Snipes
5. Trevor Berbick
6.Greg Page
7. Gerry Cooney
8. Pinklon Thomas
9. Randall (Tex) Cobb
10. Tim Witherspoon

Not THAT weak considering there were 7 guys in the top 10 who would go on to win portions of the title and every one of them challenging at one point or another.

[ChopperRead]

This I can agree with for the most part. My problem was when you made the comment "I guess Wlad should defend against ATG's like Randall "Tex" Cobb.". To me (my apologies if I was wrong) this sounded like you were defending Wlads choice of Chisora by deriding Holmes fight with Cobb. While neither will or would be looked at as even good fights, there is a difference.

The point was that not every opponent of the champ is going to be a great, or even very good, fighter. Some will be average or below. It was that way with Holmes, Ali, Marciano, Tyson, you name it.

I'm not defending Wlad fighting Chisora, because it doesn't need defending. If he is doing a voluntary defence, he can fight Chisora or Fury if he likes. Is Helenius a better opponent? Sure. But his number will be called by Wlad or Vitali soon enough.

[JAB5239]

The point was that not every opponent of the champ is going to be a great, or even very good, fighter. Some will be average or below. It was that way with Holmes, Ali, Marciano, Tyson, you name it.

I'm not defending Wlad fighting Chisora, because it doesn't need defending. If he is doing a voluntary defence, he can fight Chisora or Fury if he likes. Is Helenius a better opponent? Sure. But his number will be called by Wlad or Vitali soon enough.

As a title defense I don't like the idea of any champion defending against a guy who isn't in the top 10. Seems to much like padding their reign. But Chisora isn't top 10 ranked by ANY organization let alone "The Ring". So you're right that Wlad can defend against who he wants (depending on governing body approval), but people should understand he will be criticized for it and rightfully so. This was my point all along.

[The Hammer]

Since Tyson Fury is going to KO Derek Chisora next week and so Wlad is not going to fight him anyway, this thread's discussion is meaningless.

[Ravens Fan]

Larry Holmes, Champion

1. Michael Dokes
2. Mike Weaver
3. Gerrie Coetzee
4. Renaldo Snipes
5. Trevor Berbick
6.Greg Page
7. Gerry Cooney
8. Pinklon Thomas
9. Randall (Tex) Cobb
10. Tim Witherspoon

Not THAT weak considering there were 7 guys in the top 10 who would go on to win portions of the title and every one of them challenging at one point or another.

Other then Weaver did any of the seven have one single defense of the title they won? And if not is that a sign of greatness or weakness during the era? And one other question how many of them are in the Hall of Fame? That was a rhetorical question so no answer is really needed.

[ChopperRead]

As a title defense I don't like the idea of any champion defending against a guy who isn't in the top 10. Seems to much like padding their reign. But Chisora isn't top 10 ranked by ANY organization let alone "The Ring". So you're right that Wlad can defend against who he wants (depending on governing body approval), but people should understand he will be criticized for it and rightfully so. This was my point all along.

Presumably Chisora's ranking would be Top 10 somewhere if he beats Fury, though. And if he doesn't beat Fury, he won't be getting the fight.

Personally, I think Fury wins against Chisora by stoppage.