Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko: Chisora is a Logical Choice To Fight

[JAB5239]

I agree with the fact that today's top fighters don't fight each other enough and tend to sit and wait for title shots. However, that problem extends well beyond just the HW division. As far as the Klit bros fighting Hall of Fame fighters I know the answer to that. However, that will not keep them from getting in themselves once they retire.

And even having Hall of Fame fighters on ones resume can be a little misleading. Take Holmes for example. He fought five HOF fighters and lost to three of them one of them twice, who happened to also be a blown up Lt heavyweight. Out of the two he beat one was a very washed up Ali and the other one is in the HOF because he beat Ali one time out of three. And he was never really a champion considering he never won the belt in a ring. So, Holmes best wins were over a washed up Ali and an over hyped hype job named Cooney.

And don't get me wrong I do understand your points. My problem with what you have said is that you talk as if the heavyweight era of the 1980's was really great. When I sat and watched the era and believe me they really were not that great of fighters. I also believe if the Klit bros were not around we would be seeing fighters such as Chambers, Thompson, Arreola and a few others trading alphabet belts much like Tubbs, Dokes, Witherspoon and Pinklon Thomas did back before Tyson came along. And truth be told the Tyson era wasn't really all that great. Tyson just dominated and had enough high lite reel knockouts that he made it look that way.

I don't think the 80's was a great era, but I do think they were more talented as a whole. Unfortunately many of them pissed their careers away with *******. Today's contenders are pissing their careers away sitting on a ranking rather than fighting one another. THAT is why I consider it a weaker era. If guys aren't fighting the toughest fights on the way up than they aren't getting the experience to be credible challengers. The opportunities are there they just need to take them instead of waiting on a single big payday.

[JAB5239]

Once again, you're being an old troll.

I've never said I wanted Wlad to fight Chisora next.

This is what I actually said:



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You tried to legitimize a fight with Chisora by making comparisons to Holmes until I pointed out the facts of the matter. You than tried to say Chisora beat a top ranked fighter in Sexton, who was ranked in the top 15 by the prestigious WBO AND boxrec! Lol, you're a joke!!

[The Hammer]

You tried to legitimize a fight with Chisora by making comparisons to Holmes until I pointed out the facts of the matter. You than tried to say Chisora beat a top ranked fighter in Sexton, who was ranked in the top 15 by the prestigious WBO AND boxrec! Lol, you're a joke!!

I wasn't trying to "legitimize a fight with Chisora" at all. I was just pointing out your DOUBLE STANDARDS. I agree Chisora isn't an ideal opponent, but he's NO WORSE than several of Larry Holmes (and Muhammed Ali's) world title defenses.

You'll jump on any excuse you can find to bash Wlad.

[boxingking500]

You tried to legitimize a fight with Chisora by making comparisons to Holmes until I pointed out the facts of the matter. You than tried to say Chisora beat a top ranked fighter in Sexton, who was ranked in the top 15 by the prestigious WBO AND boxrec! Lol, you're a joke!!

im not saying the hw division is golden now...

but ali and holmes, and other great heavies have fought many ****ty fighters in there careers

[Spray_resistant]

Who's getting owned? This entire conversation proves my point of just how weak this era is when a guy with 13 fights can beat a guy with 14 fights and a paper ranking and get a shot at the heavyweight title.

Its not a weak era its just been cleaned out by the best, pretty much all eras are like this with a couple really good fighters at the top and 2nd tier guys just nowhere near them.

[Forza]

I would rather have wlad fight the winner of povetkin chagev

[The Hammer]

I would rather have wlad fight the winner of povetkin chagev

If Povetkin wins, I would love to see Povetkin-Wlad

But I don't think Chagaev-Wlad II is interesting, because their first fight was so one-sided.

[Ravens Fan]

I don't think the 80's was a great era, but I do think they were more talented as a whole. Unfortunately many of them pissed their careers away with *******. Today's contenders are pissing their careers away sitting on a ranking rather than fighting one another. THAT is why I consider it a weaker era. If guys aren't fighting the toughest fights on the way up than they aren't getting the experience to be credible challengers. The opportunities are there they just need to take them instead of waiting on a single big payday.

Busier yes but I don't believe that necessary makes them more talented. Simply put I believe if you somehow transported the Klit brothers back twenty five years or so ago. I believe they could have dominated the HW division as easily as Holmes had done. And I will go ahead and say it. Considering the fact that he could not get passed the jab of "Blubber" Douglas. And also the fact that he could not fight a lick going backwards, and also because of the size difference, I believe Wlad would have been a formidable challenge for Iron Mike.

[JAB5239]

I wasn't trying to "legitimize a fight with Chisora" at all. I was just pointing out your DOUBLE STANDARDS. I agree Chisora isn't an ideal opponent, but he's NO WORSE than several of Larry Holmes (and Muhammed Ali's) world title defenses.

You'll jump on any excuse you can find to bash Wlad.

Keep flapping your gums, racist. Whats your motto again, "if it ain't white, it ain't right"?

You will jump on any excuse to juggle Wlads balls with your tonsils.

[JAB5239]

im not saying the hw division is golden now...

but ali and holmes, and other great heavies have fought many ****ty fighters in there careers

I'll give you Holmes, but Ali has fought and beaten more great heavyweights than any other fighter. When you fight that many greats as often as Ali you should be allowed a soft touch every once in awhile.