Arum Proposal Of neutrality with a Certified testing body is Legit

[Spoon23]

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO

Steroids are a problem in ever major sport in the world, but they aren't a topic of discussion every day and they sure as hell don't DOMINATE the discussion like they do in boxing. Peds do not dominate the conversation in football or baseball, even though they are obviously a bigger problem there.

U don't read about roids 24/7 nonstop in ANY MAJOR SPORT the way u do with boxing. It's a ***ing travesty what has been done to our sport, it has basically been ****d. We have let our sport get hijacked by loons and frankly it's disgusting. There are more threads about roids then there are about BOXING.

U remember boxing, that once great sport that has become a punch line and a fringe play ground for children and amateur wanna be doctors alike. Floyd should be shot, if they have an anti boxing hall of fame for people that have done the most damage to the sport, floyd would be right next to don king. He literally released a cancer on boxing, and we who knows how long it will be before it can recover.

Well said.. sad but true.. A travesty indeed.. These fanboys have ****d our good sport. It's a gladiator sport, back in the day when swords and shields are the common weapon for fighting in the arena they fight to the death. They don't care if they die in there, nowadays fighters like Floyd whine about peds.. Geez, and he calls himself a fighter..

[Spoon23]

oh stfu its guys like you and strugg and your persistency who are the reason why nsb has become a rotting pile of crap

lol, you got him big that time... bulls eye hehe!

[Taaj Manzoor]

Arum might not have any problem with testing but Manny does.

[Bermuda]

What testing agency would that be, Fligger?

WADA?

WADA does NOT perform testing. Not sure why anybody would even vote for that (~50%)

couple of quotes from Professor David Cowan [head of the Drug Control Centre at King's College London] regarding the drug testing for the upcoming London 2012 Olympic Games:

"The IOC (International Olympic Committee) aims to test more and more athletes," ..WADA is led by the IOC

"Since WADA came on the scene, the scientific research is better, the testing is better and we are now discussing how they might cheat,"

source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75F24220110616

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Also, the link below outlines WADA and IOC role in the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympic Games.

http://www.wada-ama.org/invancouver/

[The Gambler1981]

AKA: I can't read.

I clearly stated steroids are a problem in every major sport on earth. BUT THEY DO NOT DOMINATE THE CONVERSATION LIKE THEY DO IN BOXING. U don't read more about peds on a football site then u do about football. Those are FACTS. Please refute them if u can.

Baseball?????? Not really currently but in the past it was like that for a good 5 6 years~

And you know what the baseball union did fight better drug testing tooth an nail~

[The Gambler1981]

How is USADA not a neutral organization again~

They do their protocol which they change for NO ONE so I failt to see how that should be an issue. All they have is their image they are not going to get influenced by anyone, sure they like Floyd because he is giving them a platform in pro sports but that means nothing when it comes to what they actually do.

[Spoon23]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm you know...... pacman is the underdog so he is the one who should step-up the plate and fight already, and yes, floyd fights tikets cost more money and sell more PPV's....

Geez, you sound so pathetic, like selling in a meat market.. Might as well put a sign in your face "I love Floyd, I'll fuvk him al day"

You must day dream abouthim all day, it ain't healthy bro. You're in a sad state of being a crazy ass fan boy.. who ain't getting any love from Floyd.. Must be hard for you. Tragic, Indeed.. step up? tell your manlove to step-up to the plate the boxing fans want him to dance with pac. Simple enough? That is if I'm mistaken that you really are a boxing fan not a crazy fuvk fanboy manlover lol

[Boxingtech718v2]

Geez, you sound so pathetic, like selling in a meat market.. Might as well put a sign on my face "I love Manny, I'll fuvk him al day"

I must day dream abouthim all day, it ain't healthy bro. I am in a sad state of being a crazy ass fan boy.. who ain't getting any love from Manny.. Must hard for me. Tragic, Indeed.. step up? tell your manlove to step-up to the plate the boxing fans want him to dance with Floyd. Simple enough? That is if I'm mistaken that you really are a boxing fan not a crazy fuvk fanboy manlover lol

Wow that's some revelation there.

[Spoon23]

How is USADA not a neutral organization again~

They do their protocol which they change for NO ONE so I failt to see how that should be an issue. All they have is their image they are not going to get influenced by anyone, sure they like Floyd because he is giving them a platform in pro sports but that means nothing when it comes to what they actually do.

Here read this. If there is a cloud of doubt, then Pac's camp has all the right to get a neutral body.

You guys really think Tygart (usada) is a neutral tester? Here's his explanation of why they stopped testing 18 days out.


"We chose not to test for blood closer to the fight than we did because there was no need to do so. But, of course, if we had some sort of cause or su****ion that meant that we needed to do more blood tests, let's say, five days, or, four days before a fight, then we certainly would have done it," said Tygart.

"And that's why the right to have that option is such an important aspect to having a good program. It's a deterrent for the fighters," said Tygart. "[We were] totally comfortable only having that blood test 18 days before the fight and not needing one more testing day in between."

That said, Random should be done without any human su****ion and involvement. Just set a date and get the athlete tested at a time the athletes won't know about.

The Proper random testing: Before any testing is done, they already should have decided on what dates they will randomly test each fighter. It shouldn't be decided during the testing time frame or when they feel like doing more test. Shouldn't be decided on hunch.

Before the testing the testing body should know when they will do it. Not allowing the fighters to know ofcourse. Now that's random

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/06/10/do...ause-hematoma/


So what he's saying is that the test was not given randomly, like from a computer generated list, but from their own personal subjective su****ions.

That at a certain point they determined they had tested the fighters enough. Since both fighters were not tested on the same days or the same number of times, that means he could test one fighter later than the other because of a "su****ion". Do you think that's a neutral position? And by definition that is not random. Random means taking the human element out of the decision making process.

[ThePrince]

46 pages over this bull****? Man, people will argue over anything just to do it.

USADA has no jurisdiction over professional boxing. The US Congress has only given them authority over the Olympics, Paralympics, and Pan American Games. Plus...

Mayweather changed his stance Saturday, moving off the hard line he had taken on using USADA as the testing agency.

"We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective."

Schaefer said those talks are taking place between Bruce Binkow, a high-level Golden Boy executive, and Todd duBoef, the president of Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter.

"Todd and Bruce are trying to work out the specifics of the cutoff to assure the tests are still effective because we know that 30 days before is not effective," Schaefer said. "At 30 days, we might as well not even do it. We want to figure it out [the cutoff window] and I will give my recommendation to Team Mayweather, and they will be on board. USADA is the most recognized one, but if it's another one, like the Nevada commission, we don't really care. I don't care who performs the tests as long as they are performed. That's our position. If this fight doesn't happen it's not because of Team Mayweather."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4772853

So unless Floyd/GBP move the goal posts inexplicably again... what's the problem?

They got the random, unlimited testing that's supposedly prevented Floyd from fighting Pacquiao (). So let the commission, aka the organization that has authority over the match, conduct the testing with WADA overseeing them. Problem solved.

Didn't need almost 50 pages for this non topic. But carry on with your pointless 'debate'