Arum Proposal Of neutrality with a Certified testing body is Legit

[KnockUTheFukOut]

while everybody is just pointing fingers at ONE SIDE because they are such a damn fan of one of these fighters...I think it is fair t to say that BOTH SIDES ARE FULL OF **** the TWIST AND TURNS IS JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME

[puga]

while everybody is just pointing fingers at ONE SIDE because they are such a damn fan of one of these fighters...I think it is fair t to say that BOTH SIDES ARE FULL OF **** the TWIST AND TURNS IS JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME

then get the **** out of here...be involved when your bum ass hero lara be in the same situtation...just a suggestion.....

[Spoon23]

You haven't pointed out anything. You simply reported Arum's statements and mixed them with your opinions of OST. What evidence does Arum have to prove that the U.S. Olympic Committed is not neutral? And why would he want another organization to conduct the test under the supervison of the state athletic commission? Why would an unbiased agency that conducts extensive tests need to be supervised by the athletic commission that doesn't conduct these type of tests?

Here , one more time. Shows how su****ious Tygart is. Warrants another testing body I believe

If Arum said this, it is just a continuation of his efforts to protect his cash cow your god. The sad thing about it is that *******s actually buy this BS.

Here , one more time. Shows how su****ious Tygart is. Warrants another testing body I believe

"We chose not to test for blood closer to the fight than we did because there was no need to do so. But, of course, if we had some sort of cause or su****ion that meant that we needed to do more blood tests, let's say, five days, or, four days before a fight, then we certainly would have done it," said Tygart.

"And that's why the right to have that option is such an important aspect to having a good program. It's a deterrent for the fighters," said Tygart. "[We were] totally comfortable only having that blood test 18 days before the fight and not needing one more testing day in between."

That said, Random should be done without any human su****ion and involvement. Just set a date and get the athlete tested at a time the athletes won't know about.

That at a certain point they determined they had tested the fighters enough. Since both fighters were not tested on the same days or the same number of times, that means he could test one fighter later than the other because of a "su****ion". Do you think that's a neutral position? And by definition that is not random. Random means taking the human element out of the decision making process.

[carts]

floyd said take the test and we have a fight now *****s are crying cuz pac is really taking the test damn these morons are a bunch of whinny little girls

[Kagami Taiga]

why is it that to u guys its ok for arum to come up with new proposals for ****? i dont even think manny cares about who the hell does the test. its ppl like arum and that other snake koncz that care about this stuff. im sure they try to convince manny **** like this is important. to me...all this does is make things much more complicated.

i read his words and all i see is someone whos reluctant to do the testing. i mean seriously does he think the ioc, an international organization with tremendous power, is gonna let a state commission tell it how to carry out his testing protocol? the ioc will most certainly not be subservient to any state commission just like the usada. there is no difference there. anyone with a brain knows it. and chances are they are much more expensive than usada, their labs are all overseas afterall. i see a roadblock and thats why im annoyed by this. i hope im wrong, but i doubt it.

[brick wall]

"When your sport's not doing everything possible to protect your right, it takes an awful lot of courage. We've seen in the past where athletes who spoke out were cast aside, and I think it's really unfortunate that athletes don't have more of a voice when it comes to this issue," said Tygart.

"Athletes now know that they can come to the World Anti-Doping Agency, and to the USADA's of the world and countries and have a protector who is going to say, 'We're here to protect your right," said Tygart. "And we will fight that with you, if you're willing to subject yourself to our testing."


even tygart is cool with the idea of athletes going to WADA or any USADA counterparts in other countries so i don't know why *****s are so against it. these simpletons have already made up their mind that pac will never agree to ost and so when their false beliefs were thwarted they scamper for excuses to make it appear pac is still su****ious. they don't care no matter how ****** they look like.

[-Kev-]

10 million dollar won't matter if floyd did what he's supposed to. make weight.

a couple of hundred grand won't stop floyd for being overweight if he wants.

floyd's demand calls for pac to do something he isn't supposed to. be tested through his training camp.

pac not wanting it would be a problem if this was the standard, but its not.

i don't know why anything pac agrees to that is better than commission testing is still being bashed

Is that part of the standard commission penalty for being over the weight limit?

You said:

team pac's "way" is actually standard commission

Now you say:

10 million dollar won't matter

Then you say:

floyd's demand calls for pac to do something he isn't supposed to.

But Floyd is supposed to pay $10mill over every pound over the weight limit


So

1. Pac's way is the standard commission way. Despite him having a penalty that is not part of the standard commission. It is okay because you say so.

2. A $10 million dollar penalty for every pound over 147 is not standard commission but "It doesn't matter".


3. What Floyd is asking for, isn't something Pacquiao has to do. But what Floyd agreed to from Pacquiao, doesn't matter.


Does every one see the headache that is arguing with a Pac fan?

[Spoon23]

not sure why USADA wouldn't be NEUTRAL all of a sudden

this thing is just WEIRD and why wasn't this suggested before, why the problem with USADA all of a sudden

OK then why not USE USADA as well as one of the others to conduct testing

Here , read this again if your not sure USada wouldn't be neutral? . This Shows how su****ious Tygart is. Warrants another testing body I believe

"We chose not to test for blood closer to the fight than we did because there was no need to do so. But, of course, if we had some sort of cause or su****ion that meant that we needed to do more blood tests, let's say, five days, or, four days before a fight, then we certainly would have done it," said Tygart.

"And that's why the right to have that option is such an important aspect to having a good program. It's a deterrent for the fighters," said Tygart. "[We were] totally comfortable only having that blood test 18 days before the fight and not needing one more testing day in between."

That said, Random should be done without any human su****ion and involvement. Just set a date and get the athlete tested at a time the athletes won't know about.

That at a certain point they determined they had tested the fighters enough. Since both fighters were not tested on the same days or the same number of times, that means he could test one fighter later than the other because of a "su****ion". Do you think that's a neutral position? And by definition that is not random. Random means taking the human element out of the decision making process.

[Eastbay Giant]

why are *****s still against this??

better testing by the commission.

not just better testing, random testing to be guided by wada protocol.

please tell me why you guys still *****hhing about this?

USADA is the listed Anti Doping Agency for the United States on WADA's website, so who else is the NSAC going to coordinate with? Who is he referring too?

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources/List-of-NADOs/

I've said it before and I'll say it again, USADA is an extension of WADA in the US, but that may be to simple for some people to comprehend. Arum will next be telling you that Manny won't train at Wild Card because Wild Card is in the US, and under USADA jurisdiction. He keeps poring syrup on ****, and calling it pancakes. You guys just eat it right up, so by all mean continue...

[big_james10]

not sure why USADA wouldn't be NEUTRAL all of a sudden

this thing is just WEIRD and why wasn't this suggested before, why the problem with USADA all of a sudden

OK then why not USE USADA as well as one of the others to conduct testing

This is the latest excuse and effort by Arum to save face. He didn't mention anything about the USADA not being neutral when they were negotiating the fight. They simply refused to take the test. Now, all of a sudden, it is because the USADA is not neutral? Bull****! The media and the fans are starting to turn against Arum and Pacquaio (as evidenced by the poor PPV numbers in the Mosley fight that Showtime refuses to release) and he is trying to save face.