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  • jrosales13
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    #211
    Originally posted by Spoon23
    You won't get even if you try.. Don't want to be blunt, but you need more I.Q. lol Sorry..
    So this is you not being able to really justify your claim? Because, you understand that what you're saying is completely absurd.

    There's no reason to question USADA credibility. None at all. You have failed to provide any reasoning whatsoever.

    Saying that I'm going to end this by saying that USADA doesn't have to be involved. I'm more than OK if they're not involved and it's a different party. As long as it gets done.

    It just that you failed to really how idiotic it was to question USADA credibility...Maybe it's because your IQ is not high enough or perhaps you just have Pac **** in your mouth..Either or...lol Sorry

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    • Manny#1ATG
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      #212
      Originally posted by Spoon23
      Just for the record MannyATG. If there is a neutral legitimate testing organization to facilitate this testing just to make this fight happen are you up for it? Take note a legitimate testing org.

      YES or NO will suffice =)
      Of course, why wouldn't anyone be? If they can agree on another agency I am thrilled with it. However, I just see this as another attempt at moving the goalposts by Arum. Anyone who believes that the USADA is in anyway biased towards Mayweather is an idiot. Manny has just as many fans here as Mayweather, most Americans wouldn't care if either of them died in a plane crash tomorrow. I just don't get how the idea that the USADA would be biased towards Mayweather holds any water. It has taken circular logic and lunatic conspiracy theories for any of you to even attempt to justify this. I digress, any organization they agree on is fine with me. Why USADA isn't a fair choice is just more Arum gibberish, hence why I see it as him throwing up a roadblock.

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        #213
        Originally posted by puga
        thats my whole poin why your point is flawed.....thats a naive way of looking at it.......cheaters will try to cheat when you are not trying to catch them, not when they dont know when you will try to catch them....thats the nature of the beast...

        i could understand you being a pacfan and pissed with pac's opponenst lately but him with the whole drug testing?.....cmon man...lol...
        WTF? Puga I don't know how much longer I can do this.

        Why would cheaters "try" to cheat" when they don't know when you're not trying to catch them?

        I'm trying to make this a simplistic as possible. I don't know if it's me doing a terrible job at it...Or if it's you...But, you're not getting what I'm saying.

        And, yes whole testing issues...Have you not seen/read the inconsistencies in his camp? It really pisses me off how incompetent they were in handling this whole situation.

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        • Spoon23
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          #214
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          So this is you not being able to really justify your claim? Because, you understand that what you're saying is completely absurd.

          There's no reason to question USADA credibility. None at all. You have failed to provide any reasoning whatsoever.

          Saying that I'm going to end this by saying that USADA doesn't have to be involved. I'm more than OK if they're not involved and it's a different party. As long as it gets done.

          It just that you failed to really how idiotic it was to question USADA credibility...Maybe it's because your IQ is not high enough or perhaps you just have Pac **** in your mouth..Either or...lol Sorry
          Say what you want we have been at it for how many pages now.. Go circle elsewhere lol

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          • Spoon23
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            #215
            Originally posted by Manny#1ATG
            Of course, why wouldn't anyone be? If they can agree on another agency I am thrilled with it. However, I just see this as another attempt at moving the goalposts by Arum. Anyone who believes that the USADA is in anyway biased towards Mayweather is an idiot. Manny has just as many fans here as Mayweather, most Americans wouldn't care if either of them died in a plane crash tomorrow. I just don't get how the idea that the USADA would be biased towards Mayweather holds any water. It has taken circular logic and lunatic conspiracy theories for any of you to even attempt to justify this. I digress, any organization they agree on is fine with me. Why USADA isn't a fair choice is just more Arum gibberish, hence why I see it as him throwing up a roadblock.
            Then we are in agreement. Your belief that arum is moving the goal post remains to be seen, but I'll remember this post when all has said and done in a new negotiations. And their is a legitimate body to govern this testing and Floyd still backs out. I hope I don't hear you squirm and refute your statement here hehe!. I have quoted you =)
            Last edited by Spoon23; 07-09-2011, 07:01 AM.

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              #216
              Originally posted by Spoon23
              Then we are in agreement. Your belief that arum is moving the goal post remains to be seen, but I'll remember this post when all has said and done in a new noegotiations. And their is a legitimate body to govern this testing and Floyd still backs out. I hope I don't here you squirm and refute your statement here hehe!. I have quoted you =)
              I'd totally be pissed if now Floyd comes up with another lameass excuse. I don't ****ride like you guys do, if Floyd does something to back out of the fight I will be on here *****ing about him the same way I ***** about Arum and Pac now.

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                #217
                Originally posted by Manny#1ATG
                I'd totally be pissed if now Floyd comes up with another lameass excuse. I don't ****ride like you guys do, if Floyd does something to back out of the fight I will be on here *****ing about him the same way I ***** about Arum and Pac now.
                I'm not one of those, I'm a fan of both fighters just want this fight to happen. Just think that now it's clearing there is a real possibility that the fight will happen. Random has been mentioned now. And its all good for us boxing fans.

                I want to see this fight to happen whoever wins I don't care. I just know it will be epic.I Just wish this fight will happen.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by puga
                  ok then....that proved usada is crap.....man, when you are a slacking agency like the USADA was, cheaters would try to cheat in anayway possibl..usada has exposed themselves as flawed....now, arum is offering something better than that, what's wrong with it?....
                  Kid I cant believe how dumb you are , the crap you spin is Micky Mouse material .

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                  • Mana$$aMauler
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Demanding a $10 million dollar fine for every pound over 147[which was demanded even before the OST demands were requested], is your definition of "standard commission"? Right, the NSAC penalty for being over the weight limit is $10Mill per pound.
                    This is bec Floyd set precedence by cheating his weight against Marquez.

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Mana$$aMauler
                      This is bec Floyd set precedence by cheating his weight against Marquez.
                      What about Morales and Oscar? Did they have precedence cheating weight in any fight prior to facing Pac?

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