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  • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
    Whatever way you spin it, Tygart ****ed up by using the human element of choosing when to randomly check. That's su****ion enough to call it biased in Pac's camp point to view. Just warrants a neutral body which Floyd and Pac must agree. What's the problem with that??

    Win win both sides?? Ain't like it is a sleazy facility. It has to be grade A certified testing org.
    So what exactly do you want here? The testing will be determined by a random number generator locked in a safe and checked at random by a human?

    I think you are failing to see how the human element effects this no matter how you look at it. A human will have to physically view the dates. Humans will have to go to the training site (or vice versa) to administer the tests. Humans will have to run the tests and subsequently analyze the results. You think you have made some amazing argument here, I can tell. But what you've really come up with is a worthless talking point that really doesn't make any sense.

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    • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
      Its usada that is su****ious lol.. Knowing Tygard ****ed up testing by using human element for random, it could be said he could be biased for Floyd. Get it?? Is that clear enough? To clear the air of doubt a neutral body will suffice to a peace both sides. The testing was full of controversies

      the camp of pacquiao thinks its biased so go for a neutral body. Ain't that clear enough.

      neutral, Fair Body. Legit Body to boot.. Ain't that good to make this fight happen?? Geez....
      Again if humanly they randomly picked the dates without the fighters knowing. How is that biased toward Floyd?

      And, for the last line....FFS's do you knot know how to read? Stop bringing that point up. Because, that's not my issue. I have made that cleared 6 times in this thread alone.

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      • Originally posted by Vegan101 View Post
        Haven't you notice nobody is taking you seriously? I just responded to your post just because I felt embarrassed of you being ignored by everbody.

        By the way, I was told that you’re a Pinoy midget that lives in the middle of a jungle in the Pilipines? Is that true?
        Oh no some ****** nerd 18 year old who doesn't even watch boxing doesn't take me seriously on a boxing forum. I'm so sad. loool. Notice how everyone laughs at and ridicules you even on threads you don't post in on here?

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        • Originally posted by Manny#1ATG View Post
          So what exactly do you want here? The testing will be determined by a random number generator locked in a safe and checked at random by a human?

          I think you are failing to see how the human element effects this no matter how you look at it. A human will have to physically view the dates. Humans will have to go to the training site (or vice versa) to administer the tests. Humans will have to run the tests and subsequently analyze the results. You think you have made some amazing argument here, I can tell. But what you've really come up with is a worthless talking point that really doesn't make any sense.
          Before any testing is done, they already should have decided on what dates they will randomly test each fighter. It shouldn't be decided during the testing time frame or when they feel like doing more test. Shouldn't be decided on hunch.

          Before the testing day the testing body should know when they will do it. Not allowing the fighters to know ofcourse. Now that's random =)
          Last edited by Spoon23; 07-09-2011, 06:56 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Manny#1ATG View Post
            Oh no some ****** nerd 18 year old who doesn't even watch boxing doesn't take me seriously on a boxing forum. I'm so sad. loool. Notice how everyone laughs at and ridicules you even on threads you don't post in on here?
            At least I'm making an impact but look at you! You post a lot and I'm the very first one to reply on your ******ed post. If I were you I won't waste my time here being ignored constantly like a piece of ****.

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            • Originally posted by Vegan101 View Post
              Haven't you notice nobody is taking you seriously? I just responded to your post just because I felt embarrassed of you being ignored by everybody.

              By the way, I was told that you’re a Pinoy midget that lives in the middle of a jungle in the Pilipines? Is that true?
              Weird, I responded to your posts because I didn't wanna look like a ****phobic douche bag.

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              • Originally posted by KLTPTheFlomo View Post
                Weird, I responded to your posts because I didn't wanna look like a ****phobic douche bag.
                as expected another pussy-hurt **** responded.

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                • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  Again if humanly they randomly picked the dates without the fighters knowing. How is that biased toward Floyd?

                  And, for the last line....FFS's do you knot know how to read? Stop bringing that point up. Because, that's not my issue. I have made that cleared 6 times in this thread alone.
                  Random testing is not biased to anyone, it becomes biased when it favors a fighter. Tygart chooses not to do more testing due to his hunches that it is not necessary, makes some wonder if he is biased to Floyd who called him out in the first place.

                  Proper random testing: Before any testing is done, they already should have decided on what dates they will randomly test each fighter. It shouldn't be decided during the testing time frame or when they feel like doing more test. Shouldn't be decided on hunch.

                  Before the testing the testing body should know when they will do it. Not allowing the fighters to know ofcourse. Now that's random =)
                  Last edited by Spoon23; 07-09-2011, 06:57 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    But, there was no agreed cutoff that's what you're understanding...You're confused of the matter. You don't get the difference between knowing and not knowing.

                    And, truth be told...I don't think Tito is an ATG...Maybe borderline...Oh ****...I just been pretending to be a Tito fan all along....That makes me not a big Tito fan..


                    i do undesrtand that very well.....it's you that dont get the idea that kowing or not knowing does not guratentee you a cheater aint gonna cheat......youre so naive to belive that when a fighter dont know when they'd get tested , they would'nt cheat......thats is your whole piont of the situatution.....my point is if you dont do it, theres no way of knowing wheter they tried to cheat or not......

                    oh, i belive you are a tito fan and a i believ you believe he aint an atg......i think thats you being brutally honest there, i belive youre very capbale of that too....bro, there is no shame in what youre doing......but you back tito up when he's right all the time, you cant back pac up when hes right all the time...it's two difremt things, i think youre aneutral tito fan but not exactly like pac fan like youre a tito fan...nah mean.....it common...

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                    • Originally posted by puga View Post
                      i do undesrtand that very well.....it's you that dont get the idea that kowing or not knowing does not guratentee you a cheater aint gonna cheat......youre so naive to belive that when a fighter dont know when they'd get tested , they would'nt cheat......thats is your whole piont of the situatution.....my point is if you dont do it, theres no way of knowing wheter they tried to cheat or not......

                      oh, i belive you are a tito fan and a i believ you believe he aint an atg......i think thats you being brutally honest there, i belive youre very capbale of that too....bro, there is no shame in what youre doing......but you back tito up when he's right all the time, you cant back pac up when hes right all the time...it's two difremt things, i think youre aneutral tito fan but not exactly like pac fan like youre a tito fan...nah mean.....it common...
                      Of course it doesn't guarantee it...But, not knowing helps preventing anybody from juicing...While knowing doesn't help anything at all from preventing anything..

                      And, that's what you're not understanding.

                      FFS's...When have I not back Pac up when he's right? When exactly? You're referring to this testing issue? Or anything his done post Cotto?

                      And, yea I'm a bigger Tito fan than a Pac fan. That has never been a secret. Tito is my favorite fighter of all time. Pac is just my favorite active fighter. Who has been pissing me off with the BS he has pulled lately.
                      Last edited by jrosales13; 07-09-2011, 02:41 AM.

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