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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #171
    Originally posted by Spoon23
    I just gave you one already. Random testing should be random no human element in decisioning random testing. Tygard used his own intuition if he had to fore go more testing. it should be randomly checked not visually checked for more random. That's enough su****ion there.
    It doesn't matter! As long as the fighters don't know when the random cutoff is they have to keep themselves clean unless they want to play Russian roulette with their PEDS and risk getting caught.

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      #172
      Originally posted by jai mari078
      Floyd is the one that has been using this group on a consitant basus which brings them business and revenue. Is it really that crazy to think there may be corruption and favoritism especially in this sport. If they use a neutral party there are no excuses and more than fair. The only issue is both are tested right? So what is the problem.

      First people say manny won't take the test, now if he is willing to, who gives a **** if they want a neutral party? make sure there is no contamination. That's supposedly what this about right?
      I said this twice before and for the third and ****ing last time. I DON'T CARE WHO DOES THE TESTING. WHO CARES WHAT AGENCY DOES IT?

      I'm not going to keep on repeating myself. That's the last time I'm saying it. So don't bring it back up.

      Now on a consistent basis? It was once and now is about to be twice. C'mon lets not exaggerate...

      So basically what you're saying is that USADA will be pro anybody who hires them. And, therefor risk the credibility of WADA? Really? Would that really be worth it?

      Again we going by no proof. At all...None whatsoever..We just creating a conspiracy...Isn't that what we're doing by questioning USADA credibility?

      And, just to clarify I'M ALL FOR NEUTRAL TESTING AND ALL THAT...ALL I'M ASKING IS WHEN EXACTLY DID THE USADA NOT BECOME NEUTRAL?

      Again so you won't get confuse...If the USADA doesn't do the testing. And, is another agency. That would be just fine by me...I would be more than OK with that.

      I'm just amused as to how the USADA not become credible. That's funny to me and is even funnier that poster want to run with that line of thinking. Because, of what exactly?

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        #173
        Originally posted by Spoon23
        I just gave you one already. Random testing should be random no human element in decisioning random testing. Tygard used his own intuition if he had to fore go more testing. it should be randomly checked not visually checked for more random. That's enough su****ion there.
        Look at this crap. ^^^^

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          #174
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          So basically you just creating a conspiracy theory.

          What exactly is there to challenge about the Floyd and Shane fight?

          Do you not understand the difference between not knowing and knowing.
          And, for your last line, really? OK...What exactly makes me not a Pac fan? Because, I don't suck his **** like you and others do? Is that what it is? Because, I criticize the man when he deserves it? Because, I don't give him a pass for BS? Is that what it is? I mean fine whatever I'm not a Pac...If that what it would take for you to stop bringing that crap up which has no substance whatsoever than fine I'm not a fan...Because, at the end you don't know me. I know who I root for. I know who I am a fan and not...Like I always have said Dec 6, 2008 made me a Pac fan for life. That was one of the greatest nights in the history of boxing...Whether you choose to believe me or not it's irrelevant...

          Now since we got that out of the way...Can we get back to the subject or no?
          man , ive said that many times......the testing was crap.....full of controversies that might support conspiracies.....

          and my last line?...i do belive you are a pac fan of sort but youre more of a sergio fan and flod fan than a pac fan......you calim to be a neutral fan but even if pac is on the right side, you re actually not, just to show off...and you deny it to cover your agenda....if youre not a pac fan, atelast be true to yourself......i could understnad a pac fan not defending him when he's wrong ..but you my frined is not defending him even when he's right...thus youre not a pac fan......which is all good, but atleast admit it.....be true to yourself jro....

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            #175
            Originally posted by miron_lang
            WTF?? Arum is full of ****!!!

            Let the commision do he testing!


            LOL


            seriously, Thats a good proposal i dont see the problem. I thought Random testing is what Floyd and his followers want?

            Floyd wont approve a testing org that he dont like anyway.
            I don't see why Floyd wouldn't accept this agency...I don't get what the big deal is...But, know how diva-ish those mofo's are, who knows?

            I'm just amused that somehow the USADA not become credible.

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              #176
              Originally posted by Spoon23
              I just gave you one already. Random testing should be random no human element in decisioning random testing. Tygard used his own intuition if he had to fore go more testing. it should be randomly checked not visually checked for more random. That's enough su****ion there.
              No you didn't give me anything...Again as long as it's random and the fighters don't know...What exactly does it matter?

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                #177
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                It doesn't matter! As long as the fighters don't know when the random cutoff is they have to keep themselves clean unless they want to play Russian roulette with their PEDS and risk getting caught.
                Its usada that is su****ious lol.. Knowing Tygard ****ed up testing by using human element for random, it could be said he could be biased for Floyd. Get it?? Is that clear enough? To clear the air of doubt a neutral body will suffice to a peace both sides.

                the camp of pacquiao thinks its biased so go for a neutral body. Ain't that clear enough.

                neutral, Fair Body. Legit Body to boot.. Ain't that good to make this fight happen?? Geez the testing was full of controversies...
                Last edited by Spoon23; 07-09-2011, 02:09 AM.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by puga
                  man , ive said that many times......the testing was crap.....full of controversies that might support conspiracies.....

                  and my last line?...i do belive you are a pac fan of sort but youre more of a sergio fan and flod fan than a pac fan......you calim to be a neutral fan but even if pac is on the right side, you re actually not, just to show off...and you deny it to cover your agenda....if youre not a pac fan, atelast be true to yourself......i could understnad a pac fan not defending him when he's wrong ..but you my frined is not defending him even when he's right...thus youre not a pac fan......which is all good, but atleast admit it.....be true to yourself jro....
                  How was it crap? Because, they stop testing, while both Floyd and Shane probably didn't even know they had cutoff date. Therefor they still had to worry about the testing...Which therefore it's crap? Is that your logic?

                  When should the testing have stop exactly?

                  So you do not know the difference between knowing and not knowing?

                  No I'm not a Pac....I'm a big *****...Happy now.

                  What's next...I rooted for Oscar during his heyday?

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                  • Carpe Diem
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                    #179
                    WADA= Mother of USADA and many other drug testing organizations/agencies worldwide.
                    Last edited by Carpe Diem; 07-09-2011, 02:09 AM.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by CONQUERING
                      Look at this crap. ^^^^
                      Good to know you can't reply with an intelligent rebut hehe!

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