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  • JAB5239
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    #121
    Originally posted by check hook
    Today's contenders don't stack up to even the 80's contenders who some consider weak.
    We may have some strongly differing opinions on some things, but we're in complete agreement on this.

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    • JAB5239
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      #122
      Originally posted by Jubei
      hey lads, stop living in the past, i bet most of you werent even born in 70s or 80s.. you cant compare watching some highlight youtube videos with watching full length live fights in HD nowadays.
      I know!! Those 70's and 80's vids are like watching flicker film from the early 1900's, huh? Lol, moron.

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        #123
        Originally posted by JAB5239
        We may have some strongly differing opinions on some things, but we're in complete agreement on this.


        I was born in 70 so I remember all the 80's challengers. Fat American tubs of lard for the most, one of them was even called tubbs!

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          #124
          Originally posted by Money Shot
          I was born in 70 so I remember all the 80's challengers. Fat American tubs of lard for the most, one of them was even called tubbs!

          I was born in 69', and while many were underachieving they were far more skilled than todays pretenders. They also went 15 rounds and actually threw punches. We won't even get into the "tubs of lard" of tod
          ay.

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            #125
            Originally posted by Welsh Jon
            The title of this thread is Wlad is the greatest heavyweight ever, FACT. The decent reason why this is not true is a look at Muhammad Ali's heavyweight resume:

            he beat: Archie Moore (Hall of Fame), Henry Cooper (knighted for services to boxing),Sonny Liston (HoF), Floyd Patterson (HoF), Oscar Bonavena, Bob Foster (HoF), Joe Frazier (HoF), Ken Norton (HoF), George Foreman (HoF) and Earnie Shavers.
            Yawn.

            • Archie Moore: 48 years old (Hall of Fame)
            • Henry Cooper (185 lbs, actually 180lbs but he inserted lead into his shoes)
            • Sonny Liston: the Eric Esch of the 1950s/1960s, won his HW title by beating a 189lbs guy
            • Floyd Patterson: had not a single real heavyweight fight (200x2)
            • Oscar Bonavena: Good guy but with 9 losses on his record
            • Bob Foster: Again, not a single real heavyweight fight on his record
            • Joe Frazier: Blind on his left eye. Wouldn't be allowed to box nowadays
            • Ken Norton: World champ without even winning ONCE in a title fight
            • George Foreman: Ali's trainer admitted he manipulated the ropes. Ali's co-trainer said they bribed the cooks to poison Foreman. Foreman claims he has been drugged ("I climbed into the ring with that medicinal taste still lingering in my mouth.") Highly doubtful win for Ali.
            • Earnie Shavers: Rather good win for Ali, although Shavers' power is grossly overrated in terms of modern heavyweight (215+ lbs).

            And spare us the US Hall of Fame. Nobody cares about an Ukrainian Hall of Fame with Ukrainian experts either.

            Nearly the whole record of The greatest Clay falls apart when closely analyzed.

            The Greatest Clay is 90% myth and 10% real.

            Since Ali's megalomaniac repetitions ("I am the Greatest") are the source of the myth, Ali is the greatest troll to ever box.
            Last edited by hweightblogger; 07-05-2011, 03:05 AM.

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              #126
              Originally posted by The_Golden_Boi
              Can someone help me here, I'm trying to think who has held all them titles at Heavyweight that Wlad does at the moment? If someone else has who and what was there overall record!
              Wlad has now 5 belts.

              Only LeLe had also 5 belts but then dropped the WBA belt to not face a southpaw (Chris Byrd).

              If Wlad holds his belts a little bit longer than LeLe Wlad will have had more belts at once than any other heavyweight champ in history.

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                #127
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                I was born in 69', and while many were underachieving they were far more skilled than todays pretenders. They also went 15 rounds and actually threw punches. We won't even get into the "tubs of lard" of tod
                ay.
                Going 15 rounds is a failure, not a virtue.

                And at heavyweight you don't need "more skills". A guy with nearly zero skills can beat a guy with the full set of skills.

                The 15-round argument and the skill nonsense are usually brought up by Clay Stench Inhalers.

                It's like saying "Yeah, my boxer got knocked out, but did you see how beautifully he FEINTED?"

                Stop living in the past. Nobody cares about 15-rounders. Jess Willard was a 26-rounder, does that mean he is better than Joe Louis or what?
                Last edited by hweightblogger; 07-05-2011, 03:08 AM.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by hweightblogger
                  Going 15 rounds is a failure, not a virtue.

                  And at heavyweight you don't need "more skills". A guy with nearly zero skills can beat a guy with the full set of skills.

                  The 15-round argument and the skill nonsense are only brought up by Clay Stench Inhalers.

                  It's like saying "Yeah, my boxer got knocked out, but did you see how beautifully he FEINTED?"

                  Stop living in the past. Nobody cares about 15-rounders. Jess Willard was a 26-rounder, does that mean he is better than Joe Louis or what?
                  (yawn) Are you still trolling your nonsense around?

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    (yawn) Are you still trolling your nonsense around?
                    Yup, you've been owned.

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                      #130
                      Kenny Norton would break your boys jaw.

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